On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 5:02 PM <doctormo@gmail.com> wrote:

So it looks like

Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 14:00
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 15:00
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 16:00
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 20:00

(UTC)

Are the best times.

Ted & Josh?

Martin,

On Sun, 2021-07-04 at 16:02 +0100, C R wrote:
> I've updated my vote to include Thursday. I may not be 100% better by
> then, but at least Doc will be able to join us. :)
> -C
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 5:29 PM C R <cajhne@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've added my times. I get my 2nd vax shot on Tuesday, and I expect
> > to be ill for the following days like I was for the last one, so
> > Friday works best for me.
> > Thanks for setting this up, Pono!
> > -C
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Daniel Pono Takamori <
> > pono@sfconservancy.org> wrote:
> > > Here's the poll in UTC: https://framadate.org/xBJg27wbjSoOlzUk
> > > Hopefully Tuesday-Friday next week works for people.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> > > > Hi Pono,
> > > >
> > > > It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll have
> > > to
> > > > proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've run
> > > through
> > > > the time poll we already did.
> > > >
> > > > Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date for
> > > our
> > > > meeting?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and sorry for the delays.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
> > > > > The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks Pono,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we
> > > started
> > > > > > planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for
> > > when
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > will be available to meet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in
> > > EST, let
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's
> > > advice for
> > > > > > conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on
> > > how to
> > > > > > conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been
> > > conducting
> > > > > > actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly
> > > > > > mislabeled
> > > > > > everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add
> > > agenda
> > > > > > items
> > > > > > to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not
> > > > > > appropriate
> > > > > > for the type of status update process that event for
> > > intended for.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual
> > > committee
> > > > > > meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully
> > > developed
> > > > > > meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all
> > > the
> > > > > > parts of
> > > > > > a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought
> > > we had,
> > > > > > until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that
> > > up would
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > great.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we
> > > need to
> > > > > > work through before we get to funding though, and I don't
> > > want us
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an
> > > > > > opportunity
> > > > > > to talk about the administration of the project and the
> > > community
> > > > > > has a
> > > > > > space to bring items.
> > > > > > 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape
> > > > > > community.
> > > > > > And this is devastating to our ability to act
> > > authoritatively as
> > > > > > EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape
> > > community"
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who
> > > this
> > > > > > community
> > > > > > is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular
> > > meeting
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have
> > > the
> > > > > > practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's
> > > guidance will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > critical here.
> > > > > > 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the
> > > "Inkscape
> > > > > > Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to
> > > allow...
> > > > > > 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one
> > > short, for
> > > > > > 6
> > > > > > months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no
> > > idea who
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > send ballots to.
> > > > > > 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about
> > > > > > important
> > > > > > discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape
> > > > > > community
> > > > > > will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and
> > > the
> > > > > > inkscape
> > > > > > Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community
> > > to work
> > > > > > through items in confidence with our new regular meetings
> > > acting as
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can see that we have quite the list of items to work
> > > through.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion
> > > about this
> > > > > > being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a
> > > > > > leadership.
> > > > > > Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or
> > > about how
> > > > > > "the
> > > > > > project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee
> > > > > > conducts
> > > > > > it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so
> > > we can
> > > > > > start being effective again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Here's a poll for time gathering:
> > > > > > > https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda:
> > > > > > > https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice
> > > or IRC.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > don't have
> > > > > > > any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to
> > > all who
> > > > > > > need/want to
> > > > > > > attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call
> > > link.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Pono
> > > > > > >
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