I'd also like to add that I'm not leaving the project, I'm only stepping down from the PLC.
Thanks.

-C

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 7:23 PM C R <cajhne@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks. I'd like to point out that according to the "You can not both organise for the work to be done, and be the only
selectable bid to do the work", I was not actually able to do the requested work, and also offer it as a service. I was the only one driving the project.

As far as I'm concerned, the video project died due to a lack of interest from outreach (which I can't be part of due to conflict of interest).
A video is clearly not considered an essential part of the release at this time.

-C



On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 6:57 PM <doctormo@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Chris,

I'm sorry to see you go, you will be missed from our group. And thanks
for your years of service to our community.

I should answer some of the claims, though I do so only to document not
to argue for anything in particular.

There is a conflict in all charitable organisations between being able
to make decisions about funding and being able to receive funding. This
is normally resolve by employment, with a defined set of
responsibilities and transparent structures. With a board who are
usually not paid, who reviews actions and issues as they arise.

We are in a difficult position of not having any employees or a board
that does not labour. That means we have a bunch of responsibilities
and very few people who can lift a finger to organise them without
occupying multiple seats.

To reduce the possibility of corruption, we require that there be an
organiser person who puts together a paid project proposal who is not
then going to be hired to do that work. This does require more work,
and it strains us greatly to have to do it.

"You can not both organise for the work to be done, and be the only
selectable bid to do the work"

Since there was no one to organise the video project proposal, it did
not move. Chris and several other members of vectors who were contacted
over the year (2022) all refused (politely) to do the necessary work of
organising the proposal.

To resolve the issue more positively I'm going to be doing some
mentoring with Jonathan. Lazur has volunteered to see if we can put
together a work proposal for a video, since there is high demand for
there to be one. But it's tentative as we're not sure of the timetable
needed. But stay tuned for a possible future discussion.

Regards, Martin

On Sun, 2023-03-05 at 18:19 +0000, C R wrote:
> Hey folks. Sorry to offer up two resignations in two days, but I've
> been losing sleep and realised there are some things which have been
> bothering me for quite a long time now.
>
> I think it boils down to this: My visions for Inkscape simply are not
> in-line with most of the rest of the project, and this is why I'm
> offering up my resignation. I firmly believe that PLC seats should be
> reserved for people who can represent the project's interests, which
> are decided by those who do the lion's share of contribution.
>
> I do not think it's appropriate for people to vote on funding for
> parts of the project they have no hand in, and as such, I can not
> bring myself to continue voting on funding things for development, as
> I'm not a developer. The truth is, that I believe the development
> team should have final say in the project on this matter, thus my
> vote would always be "yes" for anything the developers have
> collectively decided.
>
> The same goes for the Vectors, Testers, and any other group within
> Inkscape - they decide they need funding for x-thing they handle and
> are responsible for in their part of the project. It's a 100% yes
> from me, always. I think that's what a truly representative PLC
> should look like and act like. I do not think that the Vectors should
> be able to downvote development funds, just as I don't think the
> developers should be able to downvote vectors funds for the
> oureach activities that they handle. If a group does not do a thing,
> considered important for the project, they simply should not vote on
> those things either.
>
> Recently I've seen an increase in attempts to build some processes to
> ensure "fairness" in funding. While in principle, this sounds like a
> good idea, I believe it's achieving the opposite. I think it's
> incredibly unfair to punish those who have and do contribute
> constantly to inkscape, because of supposed "conflicts of interest".
> This was made crystal clear to me recently when I requested funding
> to make a video under the same terms as last year (not setting any
> precedent for next year). If it's a conflict of interest for me to
> request funds, and no one else steps up to request funds on behalf of
> my video project, I'm stuck in a catch 22 situation, and the video
> just doesn't get funding. Maybe that's just lack of interest in a
> video from the Vector's side, but then why should they be in charge
> of voting down something as essential to outreach as a release video?
>
> Let me make it clear - I don't care if it's me or someone else who
> does the video. If there were someone else with the capability to do
> it in FOSS to a professional standard at this late hour for this
> release, I'd just hand it over to them, since me doing it is
> apparently so contentious within the project. What upsets me is
> people seem to be voting for what they think the bureaucracy should
> look like, and not for what would benefit the project most at this
> time, while organisational efforts are incomplete.
>
> I fully understand wanting to put a fair process in place, but not a
> finger has been lifted all year to do that, and I'm tired of fighting
> endlessly with people's personal sense of morality, while the
> project's development and exposure suffers. People seem to want a
> rigid, inflexible (and entirely undeveloped) process for doing
> things, and are willing to toss important deliverables for the
> project under the bus to get their own way.
>
> I've loved some of the progress we've made together in getting things
> funded, but I can't fight everyone on these things and still consider
> myself a good project representative.
>
> I therefore resign, effective immediately.
>
> Thanks for your support, friendship and understanding.
> Hope this isn't too much of a downer for folks. I'm honestly feeling
> better already. :)
>
> For Inkscape, always.
> -C
>
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