On Jun 17 2021, at 11:25 am, Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> wrote:
I believe that the SFC's suggestion of using their big
blue button server is actually their gentle hint that running a higher
bandwidth meeting would benefit the project greatly.

I think you're vastly overstating the implications of their offer.

I believe having this meeting structure is essential before we can
conduct much of the rest of the business for Inkscpe we must have a
decision making process which is more attentive than the current
mailing list approach where I don't believe proper quorum can be
achieved which raises doubts bout the legitimacy of the decisions we
make here.

Not sure what you mean by quorum here. But to be clear, our process doesn't require quorum just more than half of the votes to be positive during the time set for the vote. There are no requirements for quorum.

On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 12:16 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
> I'd be interested to know what other people's opinions are as well a
> if I'm misremembering the "purpose" of the committee.
I think you have the right remembrance of the core intentions of the committee;

I think that Josh has made a reasonable summary here of the goals of the board. The board has never had a mandate to set the goals of the project, it is just there to support those who are working on it. There are a lot of things "typical developers" and others don't like to deal with, and the board deals with those details.

Although with caveats. The leadership functionality of the project has deprecated over time as people have left the project, removing capabilities and authority. It may have been possible to get the community together to make an authoritative pitch before

I believe that you're remembering history with rose colored glasses. There has never been the ability to get people together. Every road map effort has failed. And that's a good and a bad thing. People love road maps and to predict the future, but the reality is that we're relying on volunteer efforts, and we can't (and shouldn't) tell people what to do with their spare time. So what actually gets done depends on individuals and what they care about and want to get done.

What you're suggesting is that there needs to be power through authority, which honestly, doesn't even work in corporate settings where everyone is getting paid for their time. An analysis on the types of leadership I enjoyed is here: https://jacobian.org/2021/mar/15/organizational-power/

The proposal seeks to address this.

I don't feel like your proposal does anything to give people more time to work on those things. More meeting time, and more required prep for meetings, doesn't get more done.

Overall, I feel like your demands for video meetings come from a position of extreme privilege. Personally, over the history of the board I've taken meetings many places where a video call wouldn't be appropriate or possible. During the pandemic I've been home more, but as hopefully that is coming to an end I expect video calls to be more difficult. It feels like you're trying to put a technological barrier in place to people participating.

Ted