Music was recommended by one of our members. The license was CC-BY-ND, which is not incompatible with CC-BY-SA, it just has different requirements from the author, including "No Derivatives". We learned that the ND license essentially prevents us from editing it to fit the video. I did not know this, and neither did the author of the track when choosing the License type (I believe Doc educated him on it in talks to switch over the license). 

So we learned that ND is not suitable for our video mixing needs.

So I re-did the video music to mix it with the old music we were using to fix it. This is when Martin offered to pay for the license so we could still have new music, and no one thought that was a bad idea. I figured it wouldn't be a problem to reimburse him.

We have never ever bought or paid for music to be created for the project. In the past we just spend tons of time trying to find good tracks that have the right feeling and choose the least garbage of those tracks. There is a LOT of garbage to sort through, and being a bit more flexible with the license gives more choice of good tracks which fit better.

The project neither paid me to re-do the music, nor to look for new music in this round as part of the video project. I volunteered that bit because I've basically been ignoring asks to get new music for the last video, and thought it was good to put in a bit of extra non-paid time to get a new track for everyone to enjoy and make everyone happy. That didn't work so well. :)

So yes, we very much need to spell out the type of licenses acceptable for music in the video for future video requirements.

Be prepared to pay extra for the time it will take to find good CC-BY-SA tracks. 

-C

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 8:56 PM Marc Jeanmougin <marc@jeanmougin.fr> wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure I understand how the project came into this "accidental cost" situation... From my understanding, everything the project creates or funds is under a copyleft license, which means CC-BY-SA (or CC-BY as it's compatible) for assets (and we make it quite clear in the about screen contest, for instance) - So was this music created / contracted specifically for this project under a non-foss license and how did that happen ? Or was it chosen for this project despite the wrong license ? It's clearly ok to pay for music in videos, but is the music cost usually separate/additional from the budget for the creation of the video ?

Here from my pov we are implicitly voting on "The Inkscape project spends a part of its donations to release that specific music from a non-foss license into the copyleft world", which is a nice gesture to the world and my vote is (a) because as far as I understand doing so has benefits in particular to our release video for a "small" cost, but I'd still like to know if there was a miscommunication somewhere that could have been prevented…

--
Mc

On 5/4/22 20:51, C R wrote:

Hey folks. This is just a quickie ask to reimburse Martin for footing the
music license fee for our current release video. This is a one-time cost,
and not setting any precedent for future video costs, or otherwise.

Those in the video discussion on GitLab wanted a more permissive license
for the new video music which would allow us to upload it with the video
assets, so they can be used freely under CC-BY-SA. The decision was made in
haste because the author of the music is going on holiday and needs the
money now, and our release is only days away.

There are lots of things we can do to prevent this in the future, but
that's quite beside the point imho. This is an accidental cost that was
covered by Martin, and I think it's not too much of a one-off ask to pay
him back for it.

Please vote:
A. Reimburse 91 Euros to Martin for paying for a FOSS-friendly license for
the current video music track for the project's benefit.
B. Don't reimburse.

Note: In the future we will be using exclusively CC-BY-SA or better from
the beginning since we discovered that CC-BY-ND doesn't work for remixing
or uploading to gitlab.

Thanks!

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