VOTE: FSA adding membership provision
Background ----------
We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this batch of changes. Proposal --------
Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows: Inkscape Community. The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a list of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as specified in section 6. Adding a Member. Contributors will be added when they have made a sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution is verified by three existing members of the Community.
Removing a Member. Members can be removed from the list at the member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community.
Votes -----
a. Add the section to the FSA b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: ______ c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor change: ______ d. We shouldn't be doing this
I vote b.
I don't object to adding something to the FSA but I don't think the proposed text completely reflects the membership policy text.
Tav
----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ted Gould" ted@gould.cx | To: "Inkscape Board" inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org | Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 12:09:08 AM | Subject: [Inkscape-board] VOTE: FSA adding membership provision | | | | Background | ---------- | | We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that | some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I | suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any | comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, | I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing | part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this | batch of changes. | | Proposal | -------- | | Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows: | | 1. | Inkscape Community. The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a list | of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as | specified in section 6. | 1. | Adding a Member. Contributors will be added when they have made a | sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution | is verified by three existing members of the Community. | 2. | Removing a Member. Members can be removed from the list at the | member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The | Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have | ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have | committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community. | | | Votes | ----- | | a. Add the section to the FSA | b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: | ______ | c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor | change: ______ | d. We shouldn't be doing this | | | | _______________________________________________ | Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- | inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org | To unsubscribe send an email to | inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org |
I accidentally sent my vote to the wrong email thread on October 2nd.
I'm re-sending it here for clarity. Sorry everyone, I must have replied to the three open votes and one got replied to twice.
""" Martin Owens wrote Sat 2 Oct 2021 10:59pm:
I vote c. in this instance.
The matter is underdeveloped. The current agreement doesn't specify any mechanisms at all, and this seeks to enjoin our internal matters to an external agreement. We don't know if this is a good idea, it's not been through any sounding out or brought up at a meeting where experts could be questioned.
I can't see it offering benefit to us. There's nothing we're trying to prevent, or encourage, I say leave it out of this round of updates to the FSA. """
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2021-10-02 at 17:09 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
Background
We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this batch of changes.
Proposal
Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows:
Inkscape Community. The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a list of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as specified in section 6. Adding a Member. Contributors will be added when they have made a sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution is verified by three existing members of the Community. Removing a Member. Members can be removed from the list at the member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community.
Votes
a. Add the section to the FSA b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: ______ c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor change: ______ d. We shouldn't be doing this
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And the vote was d.
One day we'll have a voting service that'll make this easier. Maybe with reminder emails 😯 a man can dream!
Martin,
On Thu, 2021-11-04 at 10:47 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
I accidentally sent my vote to the wrong email thread on October 2nd.
I'm re-sending it here for clarity. Sorry everyone, I must have replied to the three open votes and one got replied to twice.
""" Martin Owens wrote Sat 2 Oct 2021 10:59pm:
I vote c. in this instance.
The matter is underdeveloped. The current agreement doesn't specify any mechanisms at all, and this seeks to enjoin our internal matters to an external agreement. We don't know if this is a good idea, it's not been through any sounding out or brought up at a meeting where experts could be questioned.
I can't see it offering benefit to us. There's nothing we're trying to prevent, or encourage, I say leave it out of this round of updates to the FSA. """
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2021-10-02 at 17:09 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
Background
We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this batch of changes.
Proposal
Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows:
Inkscape Community. The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a list of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as specified in section 6. Adding a Member. Contributors will be added when they have made a sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution is verified by three existing members of the Community. Removing a Member. Members can be removed from the list at the member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community.
Votes
a. Add the section to the FSA b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: ______ c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor change: ______ d. We shouldn't be doing this
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I vote d.
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 14:55 Martin Owens doctormo@geek-2.com wrote:
And the vote was d.
One day we'll have a voting service that'll make this easier. Maybe with reminder emails 😯 a man can dream!
Martin,
On Thu, 2021-11-04 at 10:47 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
I accidentally sent my vote to the wrong email thread on October 2nd.
I'm re-sending it here for clarity. Sorry everyone, I must have replied to the three open votes and one got replied to twice.
""" Martin Owens wrote Sat 2 Oct 2021 10:59pm:
I vote c. in this instance.
The matter is underdeveloped. The current agreement doesn't specify any mechanisms at all, and this seeks to enjoin our internal matters to an external agreement. We don't know if this is a good idea, it's not been through any sounding out or brought up at a meeting where experts could be questioned.
I can't see it offering benefit to us. There's nothing we're trying to prevent, or encourage, I say leave it out of this round of updates to the FSA. """
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2021-10-02 at 17:09 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
Background
We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this batch of changes.
Proposal
Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows:
Inkscape Community. The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a list of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as specified in section 6. Adding a Member. Contributors will be added when they have made a sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution is verified by three existing members of the Community. Removing a Member. Members can be removed from the list at the member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community.
Votes
a. Add the section to the FSA b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: ______ c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor change: ______ d. We shouldn't be doing this
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Mostly (d) : I think "how" we decide membership (like, the "three existing members" here) here does not have to be in the FSA and that the details should be internal
I vote b, sharing Tav's sentiments.
On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 3:09 PM Ted Gould ted@gould.cx wrote:
Background
We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this batch of changes.
Proposal
Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows:
- *Inkscape Community.* The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a
list of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as specified in section 6.
- *Adding a Member.* Contributors will be added when they have made a sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution is verified by three existing members of the Community. 2. *Removing a Member.* Members can be removed from the list at the member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community.
Votes
a. Add the section to the FSA b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: ______ c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor change: ______ d. We shouldn't be doing this
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I'll vote b, it is clear that this needs more work from everyone's comments. I'd be unhappy if it passed with those concerns.
Ted On Oct 2 2021, at 5:09 pm, Ted Gould ted@gould.cx wrote:
Background
We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this batch of changes. Proposal
Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows: Inkscape Community. The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a list of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as specified in section 6. Adding a Member. Contributors will be added when they have made a sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution is verified by three existing members of the Community.
Removing a Member. Members can be removed from the list at the member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community.
Votes
a. Add the section to the FSA b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: ______ c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor change: ______ d. We shouldn't be doing this
This referendum fails to get a simple majority for any selection and thus fails. Recorded here: https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/referendums/resolutions/2021_10_fsa_adding_...
Ted On Oct 2 2021, at 5:09 pm, Ted Gould ted@gould.cx wrote:
Background
We've passed a membership policy, but I'd thrown out the idea that some of that should be in the FSA to make it more official. I suggested some text to mirror the policy, there hasn't been any comments. Upon realizing the FSA is harder to change than I thought, I'm suggesting putting it in now so we don't have to do the signing part again. Putting this to a quick vote to see if it can go in this batch of changes. Proposal
Add a section to the FSA that reads as follows: Inkscape Community. The Inkscape Community shall be defined as a list of members that is maintained by The Committee and posted as specified in section 6. Adding a Member. Contributors will be added when they have made a sustained contribution to the Inkscape Project and that contribution is verified by three existing members of the Community.
Removing a Member. Members can be removed from the list at the member’s request or by a simple majority vote of The Committee. The Committee should only remove members that cannot be contacted, have ceased contributing to Inkscape for over a year, or who have committed actions that are harmful to the project or its community.
Votes
a. Add the section to the FSA b. It needs more work, delay until next update of the FSA, ideas: ______ c. I think it should go in this revision of the FSA with a minor change: ______ d. We shouldn't be doing this
participants (6)
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C R -
Josh Andler -
Marc Jeanmougin -
Martin Owens -
tavmjong＠free.fr -
Ted Gould