Fwd: [Inkscape-devel] Additional Inkscape Funding - paying developers feature by feature
Hi all, Please read Martin's email below. "
Any project based funding will have to go through the board and the Free Software Conservancy who handle those aspects of the project.
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The way I understood things is: if someone is payed to work on Inkscape, that is fine and is not our business (and has happened in the past though similar funding websites, correct?). I thought it becomes our business if the funding/fundraising is brought as an official Inkscape activity, or on deciding whether code lands in trunk, or trademark/copyright issues etc. So, although (much) payed development next to unpayed volunteer development is debatable, I don't think we can (or should try to) prevent such independent funding website projects.
regards, Johan
On 3-12-2013 19:09, Martin Owens wrote: On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:31 +0000, Anna Morris wrote:
Please let me know what you think and if you are interested in getting funding this way, either as a group of core-developers or, if not, as an individual developer.
Hi Anna,
Any project based funding will have to go through the board and the Free Software Conservancy who handle those aspects of the project.
I wonder if we can have a license to fund from the board. A sort of sanction to seek funding in a specific way under Inkscape's umbrella. It wouldn't need money to flow through SFC, but could help routing costs.
In any regard; the small project pattern should make it easier to make that request.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:10:27PM +0100, Johan Engelen wrote:
Hi all, Please read Martin's email below. "
Any project based funding will have to go through the board and the Free Software Conservancy who handle those aspects of the project.
"
The way I understood things is: if someone is payed to work on Inkscape, that is fine and is not our business (and has happened in the past though similar funding websites, correct?). I thought it becomes our business if the funding/fundraising is brought as an official Inkscape activity, or on deciding whether code lands in trunk, or trademark/copyright issues etc.
How does google summer of code fit in this? That's surely an example of people being funded to work on inkscape. (I have no opinion other that to point this obvious fact out)
njh
On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 12:36:08PM +1100, Nathan Hurst wrote:
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:10:27PM +0100, Johan Engelen wrote:
Hi all, Please read Martin's email below. "
Any project based funding will have to go through the board and the Free Software Conservancy who handle those aspects of the project.
"
The way I understood things is: if someone is payed to work on Inkscape, that is fine and is not our business (and has happened in the past though similar funding websites, correct?). I thought it becomes our business if the funding/fundraising is brought as an official Inkscape activity, or on deciding whether code lands in trunk, or trademark/copyright issues etc.
How does google summer of code fit in this? That's surely an example of people being funded to work on inkscape. (I have no opinion other that to point this obvious fact out)
Financially, GSoC is organized through SFC. SFC takes care of working with Google to get the checks cut and distributed to students and mentors. As per an Inkscape Board vote earlier this year, we also give SFC 10% off the top as a donation for their services.
There have been one or two other instances where external groups paid for Inkscape development, where the funds were passed through SFC (or at least, we worked with SFC to ensure the funds got received and sent to the recipient properly.)
One of the advantages of working through SFC for donations is that the donor then can treat their donation as tax deductable. SFC has also been of value when the donor and recipient are in different countries with different laws regarding donations; we've had a few such complications with some of the GSoC payments for instance.
SFC has also offered to assist in future fundraising efforts we would wish to have. Bradley has told me he felt that Inkscape has a huge amount of potential for successful crowd funding, and is very encouraging of us to give it a shot. I think we could rely on them for help on legal/financial organizational side of things.
Bryce
On 4-12-2013 3:21, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 12:36:08PM +1100, Nathan Hurst wrote:
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:10:27PM +0100, Johan Engelen wrote:
Hi all, Please read Martin's email below. "
Any project based funding will have to go through the board and the Free Software Conservancy who handle those aspects of the project.
"
The way I understood things is: if someone is payed to work on Inkscape, that is fine and is not our business (and has happened in the past though similar funding websites, correct?). I thought it becomes our business if the funding/fundraising is brought as an official Inkscape activity, or on deciding whether code lands in trunk, or trademark/copyright issues etc.
How does google summer of code fit in this? That's surely an example of people being funded to work on inkscape. (I have no opinion other that to point this obvious fact out)
Financially, GSoC is organized through SFC. SFC takes care of working with Google to get the checks cut and distributed to students and mentors. As per an Inkscape Board vote earlier this year, we also give SFC 10% off the top as a donation for their services.
There have been one or two other instances where external groups paid for Inkscape development, where the funds were passed through SFC (or at least, we worked with SFC to ensure the funds got received and sent to the recipient properly.)
One of the advantages of working through SFC for donations is that the donor then can treat their donation as tax deductable. SFC has also been of value when the donor and recipient are in different countries with different laws regarding donations; we've had a few such complications with some of the GSoC payments for instance.
SFC has also offered to assist in future fundraising efforts we would wish to have. Bradley has told me he felt that Inkscape has a huge amount of potential for successful crowd funding, and is very encouraging of us to give it a shot. I think we could rely on them for help on legal/financial organizational side of things.
My question still stands ;-) Independent fundraising websites are free to pay people to write code, right? And then that code is contributed to Inkscape. (they can "guarantee" that the code gets committed to trunk, say, if that person has commit rights, but no guarantee about it not being reverted for release of course)
If this is the case, we should reply on the devlist to Anna Morris, that it does not have to go through SFC/board, but perhaps that we'd appreciate it (if we do ;).
thanks, Johan
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Nathan Hurst <njh@...19...> wrote:
How does google summer of code fit in this? That's surely an example of people being funded to work on inkscape. (I have no opinion other that to point this obvious fact out)
Well, the Google situation is that they directly pay the students who pass and otherwise the donate money to the project for each student that passed. We've made it optional for us to choose to pay the mentors who wish to be reimbursed for their time.
Cheers, Josh
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