VOTE: Commercial listings policy for inkscape.org site
Question: What policy should govern requests by commercial entities for preferential listing on the inkscape.org website.
*** All current board members are requested to vote ***
Voting: Please rank the following in order of your preference for what Inkscape's policy should be.
I. No paid advertisements are permitted. The Inkscape project will consider inclusion of links or references to relevant products as the website maintainers see fit.
II. The board votes on each paid link proposal individually. (Basically, status quo for how we're doing things so far.)
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
IV. Similar to III, except all such pages reserve the top section for options that adhere to FOSS principles, secondly items that are gratis, and thirdly commercial. As with III, the commercial listings are ordered with highest paid to lowest.
V. Ala Carte. Every location on the website is given a price value for being listed for a specified period of time (e.g. 3 months). A schedule is drawn up and placement is sold on a first-come / first-serve basis.
VI. Similar to IV but with a bidding system so prices are set by the highest bidder within a period of time.
Motivation: A number of commercial entities have contacted the board regarding permission to promote publications, et al on the Inkscape web site. To date these requests have been handled on a case-by-case basis, but response from the board has been slow, and without an established policy there is a danger of being inconsistent and appearing biased in favor of one group or another. By establishing a policy, the Inkscape project will be able to handle these requests directly and consistently, without requiring committee votes for each.
Here's my vote.
Btw, let's try to get this vote wrapped up within the week.
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 10:36:16PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Voting: Please rank the following in order of your preference for what Inkscape's policy should be.
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
IV. Similar to III, except all such pages reserve the top section for options that adhere to FOSS principles, secondly items that are gratis, and thirdly commercial. As with III, the commercial listings are ordered with highest paid to lowest.
I. No paid advertisements are permitted. The Inkscape project will consider inclusion of links or references to relevant products as the website maintainers see fit.
V. Ala Carte. Every location on the website is given a price value for being listed for a specified period of time (e.g. 3 months). A schedule is drawn up and placement is sold on a first-come / first-serve basis.
VI. Similar to IV but with a bidding system so prices are set by the highest bidder within a period of time.
II. The board votes on each paid link proposal individually. (Basically, status quo for how we're doing things so far.)
Bryce
Hey Bryce,
Thank you very much for putting this all together and thinking it through!
3, 4, 1, 6, 5, 2 are my preferred order.
Cheers, Josh
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...24...>wrote:
Here's my vote.
Btw, let's try to get this vote wrapped up within the week.
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 10:36:16PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Voting: Please rank the following in order of your preference for what Inkscape's policy should be.
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
IV. Similar to III, except all such pages reserve the top section for options that adhere to FOSS principles, secondly items that are gratis, and thirdly commercial. As with III, the commercial listings are ordered with highest paid to lowest.
I. No paid advertisements are permitted. The Inkscape project will consider inclusion of links or references to relevant products as the website maintainers see fit.
V. Ala Carte. Every location on the website is given a price value for being listed for a specified period of time (e.g. 3 months). A schedule is drawn up and placement is sold on a first-come / first-serve basis.
VI. Similar to IV but with a bidding system so prices are set by the highest bidder within a period of time.
II. The board votes on each paid link proposal individually. (Basically, status quo for how we're doing things so far.)
Bryce
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Same ranking, except I think I'd put option I first.
-mental
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 22:50 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Here's my vote.
Btw, let's try to get this vote wrapped up within the week.
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 10:36:16PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Voting: Please rank the following in order of your preference for what Inkscape's policy should be.
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
IV. Similar to III, except all such pages reserve the top section for options that adhere to FOSS principles, secondly items that are gratis, and thirdly commercial. As with III, the commercial listings are ordered with highest paid to lowest.
I. No paid advertisements are permitted. The Inkscape project will consider inclusion of links or references to relevant products as the website maintainers see fit.
V. Ala Carte. Every location on the website is given a price value for being listed for a specified period of time (e.g. 3 months). A schedule is drawn up and placement is sold on a first-come / first-serve basis.
VI. Similar to IV but with a bidding system so prices are set by the highest bidder within a period of time.
II. The board votes on each paid link proposal individually. (Basically, status quo for how we're doing things so far.)
Bryce
All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 _______________________________________________ Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 10:50:09PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Here's my vote.
I carefully sat down with your options and ordered them, and got: III, IV, I, V, VI, II
which I note is exactly the same as you. I like the idea of the bidding scheme, but it would be a fair amount of work to set up. II is too much work.
Another option would be to put commercial ads on the website (e.g. google ads), but I think this would look a bit crass.
njh
I am not a board member, but I would like to let you know what is my opinion on that matter. I think that regardless of which option is chosen, the materials aligned with FOSS principles should always come first.
This is my prefered order (best option on the top (IV), worst in the bottom (V)):
IV. Similar to III, except all such pages reserve the top section for options that adhere to FOSS principles, secondly items that are gratis, and thirdly commercial. As with III, the commercial listings are ordered with highest paid to lowest.
II. The board votes on each paid link proposal individually. (Basically, status quo for how we're doing things so far.)
I. No paid advertisements are permitted. The Inkscape project will consider inclusion of links or references to relevant products as the website maintainers see fit.
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
VI. Similar to IV but with a bidding system so prices are set by the highest bidder within a period of time.
V. Ala Carte. Every location on the website is given a price value for being listed for a specified period of time (e.g. 3 months). A schedule is drawn up and placement is sold on a first-come / first-serve basis.
cheers, Felipe Sanches
IV II III VI V I
--Ted
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 22:36 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Question: What policy should govern requests by commercial entities for preferential listing on the inkscape.org website.
*** All current board members are requested to vote ***Voting: Please rank the following in order of your preference for what Inkscape's policy should be.
I. No paid advertisements are permitted. The Inkscape project will consider inclusion of links or references to relevant products as the website maintainers see fit.
II. The board votes on each paid link proposal individually. (Basically, status quo for how we're doing things so far.)
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
IV. Similar to III, except all such pages reserve the top section for options that adhere to FOSS principles, secondly items that are gratis, and thirdly commercial. As with III, the commercial listings are ordered with highest paid to lowest.
V. Ala Carte. Every location on the website is given a price value for being listed for a specified period of time (e.g. 3 months). A schedule is drawn up and placement is sold on a first-come / first-serve basis.
VI. Similar to IV but with a bidding system so prices are set by the highest bidder within a period of time.
Motivation: A number of commercial entities have contacted the board regarding permission to promote publications, et al on the Inkscape web site. To date these requests have been handled on a case-by-case basis, but response from the board has been slow, and without an established policy there is a danger of being inconsistent and appearing biased in favor of one group or another. By establishing a policy, the Inkscape project will be able to handle these requests directly and consistently, without requiring committee votes for each.
All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 _______________________________________________ Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
== Decision ==
Option III received the majority of votes. Option IV came in second place.
== Raw Votes ==
Bryce Harrington 3 4 1 5 6 2 Josh Andler 3 4 1 6 5 2 Tim Cole 1 3 4 6 5 2 Nathan Hurst 3 4 1 5 6 2 Aaron Spike 4 3 1 5 6 2 Ted Gould 4 2 3 6 5 1
== First Count ==
Option Votes 1 1 2 0 3 3 4 2 5 0 6 0
Eliminate lowest votes: Options 2, 5, 6
Eliminate next lowest votes: Option 1
== Second Count ==
Option Votes 3 4 4 2
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 10:36:16PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Question: What policy should govern requests by commercial entities for preferential listing on the inkscape.org website.
*** All current board members are requested to vote ***Voting: Please rank the following in order of your preference for what Inkscape's policy should be.
I. No paid advertisements are permitted. The Inkscape project will consider inclusion of links or references to relevant products as the website maintainers see fit.
II. The board votes on each paid link proposal individually. (Basically, status quo for how we're doing things so far.)
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
IV. Similar to III, except all such pages reserve the top section for options that adhere to FOSS principles, secondly items that are gratis, and thirdly commercial. As with III, the commercial listings are ordered with highest paid to lowest.
V. Ala Carte. Every location on the website is given a price value for being listed for a specified period of time (e.g. 3 months). A schedule is drawn up and placement is sold on a first-come / first-serve basis.
VI. Similar to IV but with a bidding system so prices are set by the highest bidder within a period of time.
Motivation: A number of commercial entities have contacted the board regarding permission to promote publications, et al on the Inkscape web site. To date these requests have been handled on a case-by-case basis, but response from the board has been slow, and without an established policy there is a danger of being inconsistent and appearing biased in favor of one group or another. By establishing a policy, the Inkscape project will be able to handle these requests directly and consistently, without requiring committee votes for each.
All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 _______________________________________________ Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
III. Specific pages on the website are designated for commercial listings. Each page has a standardized format which all listings must follow for inclusion. These listings are ordered by amount paid, with highest paid at the top. No proposals for links or listings on any other location in the site including headers, footers, or menus will be entertained.
Thinking through some of the implications of this:
* "highest paid at top" - The web maintainers will need to maintain a registry of who paid what amounts.
* What if a given company paid on multiple occasions? Each donation must be earmarked to a specific listing.
* What if a company wishes their payment to be kept confidential? To participate in the ranking, the amount must be public. Confidential donations will be treated as $0.01 for sorting purposes.
* Won't it become more and more expensive to get the #1 slot, as more and more people pay? Yes, this is by design; think of it like an auction. If the page grows to too many items, the page will likely be split into multiple pages, such as by Inkscape version or categories; this is entirely left to the web maintainer's descretion, but the sorting within any given split-out page will still be in paid-amount order.
* How does web team verify who paid what? (Presumably the web team can contact the consortium and ask for verification that a given entity paid a given amount. The details of the process will need ironed out between the various parties.)
* Who should a given publisher email to request a listing be added? The web team should include appropriate directions for how to make a donation and get the listing submitted to the team for inclusion.
* How long should listings be guaranteed visible on the site? Ideally paid listings should be kept indefinitely, but I expect the value of the listing diminishes after a year or two, so if we give any guarantees perhaps it should be 2 years?
Let me know if you spot any issues with any of the above, or have any other concerns or implications that'll need accounted for.
Bryce
participants (6)
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Bryce Harrington -
Felipe Sanches -
Josh Andler -
MenTaLguY -
Nathan Hurst -
Ted Gould