On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 11:01 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:

We're committed to being there at least so far as LGM is shaping up. They've asked for some blurb for their website two days ago and I wonder if anyone has a good section of text from our planning to give?

Here is some text to start with:

We (Inkscape developers) will be holding a three day hackfest prior to LGM at the LGM venue. This is our first hackfest ever and we are eagerly looking forward to it as many of us have never actually met each other! We plan on tackling things that are hard to do remotely such as: designing a new plugin/extension system, teaming up to squash particularly nasty bugs, authoring better user documentation, and planning where to take Inkscape development in the future.

I will need to look into it further, but I could probably get a portion of the cost for me funded by SCALE (per the head conference chair mentioning it in passing).

Cheers, Josh

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...> wrote:

On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 09:13 -0600, Ted Gould wrote:

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I vote for funding this, A. I think it is an important meeting, the idea of SVG2 at all delights me, it's been a long time coming.

I'm a little worried that with the hackfest planned, but fund raising not in (not worried, but reality of situation), we might be slightly over committed. I think we should be conservative until that event is in the books (as it's our first), but this is important.

I agree we should be conservative but I do think we still have a fairly large kitty in case our hackfest fund raising flops. Bryce, can you give us our current account balance at SFC?

Tav

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Ted, could you formalize your vote by responding to the "REFERERNDUM" email?

Thanks,

Tav

On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 09:13 -0600, Ted Gould wrote:

I vote for funding this, A. I think it is an important meeting, the idea of SVG2 at all delights me, it's been a long time coming.

I'm a little worried that with the hackfest planned, but fund raising not in (not worried, but reality of situation), we might be slightly over committed. I think we should be conservative until that event is in the books (as it's our first), but this is important.

Ted

On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 14:00 +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:

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Hi,

I would like to attend the SVG working group meeting in Sydney next month. The working group is targeting this meeting to move the SVG 2 specification into "last call" at which point no new features can be added and incomplete features can be dropped. It is an important meeting to attend to make sure that features that are important to Inkscape remain in the specification. The full justification for attending is in the attached proposal (which is also checked into the Inkscape board bzr repository).

The cost of attending (both financial and time) is higher than previous meetings that I have attended with Inkscape's support but I think the importance of this meeting justifies it.

Note, reports from previously attended SVG WG meetings can be found on my blog:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/

Tav

Proposal:

[ ] a. Approve funding Tav to attend the Sydney SVG WG meeting as outlined below, for a total of up to $2250. [ ] b. Do not approve funding Tav.

Background:

I (Tav) would like funding to attend the Sydney SVG working group meeting, to be held February 11-14, 2015. The first day will be a joint meeting with the CSS working group.

At this meeting, the SVG working group plans on moving the SVG 2 specification to "Last Call". At this point the specification is essentially feature complete with no new features to be added and incomplete features removed. It is an important meeting to attend in person to make sure that features important to Inkscape such as mesh gradients, hatched fills, and auto-flowed text are not dropped. It also is a last chance to add new features adopted like text-on-a-shape or resolve problems such as getting proper closing of paths. The meeting also is an opportunity to lobby the browsers to implement SVG 2 features already supported by Inkscape such as the 'context-fill' and 'context-stroke' values for the 'fill' and 'stroke' properties which allows automatically matching marker fill color to path stroke color and the 'auto-reverse-start' value for the marker orientation which allows an arrow marker to be used both at the start and end of a path.

Progress on SVG 2 can be followed at:

https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/

My presentations at the last SVG working group meeting can be found at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/tpac_2014.html

and a meeting report at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=1154

Approximate cost for Sydney

Transportation: Paris to Syndey: $1500 6 nights lodging/meals: $ 750

Tavmjong Bah

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On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 16:32 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:

On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 02:00:18PM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:

...

Hi,

I would like to attend the SVG working group meeting in Sydney next month. The working group is targeting this meeting to move the SVG 2 specification into "last call" at which point no new features can be added and incomplete features can be dropped. It is an important meeting to attend to make sure that features that are important to Inkscape remain in the specification. The full justification for attending is in the attached proposal (which is also checked into the Inkscape board bzr repository).

The cost of attending (both financial and time) is higher than previous meetings that I have attended with Inkscape's support but I think the importance of this meeting justifies it.

Note, reports from previously attended SVG WG meetings can be found on my blog:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/

Tav

Hi Tav, thanks again for writing up the report on the effectiveness of the past meetings. And thanks too for writing up this proposal. As a reminder, votes need to be called by the committee chair to be official.

Also, I have been thinking that since the SVG meetings are an ongoing item, really what we should be doing is establishing an overall budget for the year, with SVG meetings being a regular category in it. I think that'd help make things more predictable for everyone, and would give you more freedom in determining which meeting(s) make the most sense for you to attend.

It would be a good idea to have a yearly budget. I've been lucky so far that the SVG meetings have mostly coincided with other conferences (LGM, SVG Open, GSoC Mentor's meeting) so it's kept down costs. I do need, however, to get an answer rather quickly on Sydney as airfares will rise as the date approaches. Can you call for a vote on this and leave the topic of a yearly budget to a future discussion?

Thanks,

Tav

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:52:38PM +0100, Johan Engelen wrote:

Change of topic, sorry.

On 10-1-2015 1:32, Bryce Harrington wrote:

...

As a reminder, votes need to be called by the committee chair to be official.

Do you want to change this to offload the burden Bryce?

Most of the work is the writing of the proposal, which Tav took care of quite nicely, and then following up on any implementation details. I always appreciate help with that latter bit, but in the case of conference travel I think we have the processes sorted out well enough that I rarely need to be involved in it.

Also, if only the committee chair can start voting on a proposal, then the committee chair can very simply block anything from happening with which he does not approve.

True in theory, but in practice it's not quite so easy. The bylaws we're currently chartered under say:

The Committee will elect a single individual to communicate with the Conservancy (the "Representative") and shall notify the Conservancy promptly following the election of a new Representative. The Representative will have the authority to instruct the Conservancy on the Project's behalf on all matters.

So, if the committee chair is not representing the committee properly, the committee can simply elect a different chair. In other words, if the chair started blocking stuff willy nilly, then the committee would just boot him and pick someone new.

Bryce

I vote 'a'

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015, at 02:45 AM, Bryce Harrington wrote:

A majority vote of the current board members is required for this matter.

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Tav would like to attend the SVG working group meeting in Sydney next month.

Proposal:

[ ] a. Approve funding Tav to attend the Sydney SVG WG meeting as outlined below, for a total of up to $2250. [ ] b. Do not approve funding Tav.

Background:

I (Tav) would like funding to attend the Sydney SVG working group meeting, to be held February 11-14, 2015. The first day will be a joint meeting with the CSS working group.

The working group is targeting this meeting to move the SVG 2 specification into "last call" at which point no new features can be added and incomplete features can be dropped. It is an important meeting to attend to make sure that features that are important to Inkscape remain in the specification. The full justification for attending is in the attached proposal (which is also checked into the Inkscape board bzr repository).

The cost of attending (both financial and time) is higher than previous meetings that I have attended with Inkscape's support but I think the importance of this meeting justifies it.

Note, reports from previously attended SVG WG meetings can be found on my blog:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/

At this meeting, the SVG working group plans on moving the SVG 2 specification to "Last Call". At this point the specification is essentially feature complete with no new features to be added and incomplete features removed. It is an important meeting to attend in person to make sure that features important to Inkscape such as mesh gradients, hatched fills, and auto-flowed text are not dropped. It also is a last chance to add new features adopted like text-on-a-shape or resolve problems such as getting proper closing of paths. The meeting also is an opportunity to lobby the browsers to implement SVG 2 features already supported by Inkscape such as the 'context-fill' and 'context-stroke' values for the 'fill' and 'stroke' properties which allows automatically matching marker fill color to path stroke color and the 'auto-reverse-start' value for the marker orientation which allows an arrow marker to be used both at the start and end of a path.

There are typically a number of SVG meetings throughout the year. The total cost of these meetings may represent a non-trivial fraction of Inkscape's annual income, so it may be worthwhile to budget the proportion of Inkscape's income to go to these events. If this is done, the amount approved for this trip will be included in the SVG meetings category.

Progress on SVG 2 can be followed at:

https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/

My presentations at the last SVG working group meeting can be found at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/tpac_2014.html

and a meeting report at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=1154

Approximate cost for Sydney

Transportation: Paris to Syndey: $1500 6 nights lodging/meals: $ 750

Tavmjong Bah

Can anybody else vote on this? Airfares have risen $200 in the past week. I can probably still keep to budget but not if they go up any more.

Tav

On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 23:50 +0100, Johan Engelen wrote:

I vote a.

• Johan

On 13-1-2015 11:45, Bryce Harrington wrote:

...

A majority vote of the current board members is required for this matter.

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Tav would like to attend the SVG working group meeting in Sydney next month.

Proposal:

[ ] a. Approve funding Tav to attend the Sydney SVG WG meeting as outlined below, for a total of up to $2250. [ ] b. Do not approve funding Tav.

Background:

I (Tav) would like funding to attend the Sydney SVG working group meeting, to be held February 11-14, 2015. The first day will be a joint meeting with the CSS working group.

The working group is targeting this meeting to move the SVG 2 specification into "last call" at which point no new features can be added and incomplete features can be dropped. It is an important meeting to attend to make sure that features that are important to Inkscape remain in the specification. The full justification for attending is in the attached proposal (which is also checked into the Inkscape board bzr repository).

The cost of attending (both financial and time) is higher than previous meetings that I have attended with Inkscape's support but I think the importance of this meeting justifies it.

Note, reports from previously attended SVG WG meetings can be found on my blog:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/

At this meeting, the SVG working group plans on moving the SVG 2 specification to "Last Call". At this point the specification is essentially feature complete with no new features to be added and incomplete features removed. It is an important meeting to attend in person to make sure that features important to Inkscape such as mesh gradients, hatched fills, and auto-flowed text are not dropped. It also is a last chance to add new features adopted like text-on-a-shape or resolve problems such as getting proper closing of paths. The meeting also is an opportunity to lobby the browsers to implement SVG 2 features already supported by Inkscape such as the 'context-fill' and 'context-stroke' values for the 'fill' and 'stroke' properties which allows automatically matching marker fill color to path stroke color and the 'auto-reverse-start' value for the marker orientation which allows an arrow marker to be used both at the start and end of a path.

There are typically a number of SVG meetings throughout the year. The total cost of these meetings may represent a non-trivial fraction of Inkscape's annual income, so it may be worthwhile to budget the proportion of Inkscape's income to go to these events. If this is done, the amount approved for this trip will be included in the SVG meetings category.

Progress on SVG 2 can be followed at:

https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/

My presentations at the last SVG working group meeting can be found at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/tpac_2014.html

and a meeting report at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=1154

Approximate cost for Sydney

Transportation: Paris to Syndey: $1500 6 nights lodging/meals: $ 750

Tavmjong Bah

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Votes:

Josh Andler a. Jon A. Cruz a. Johan Engelen a. Bryce Harrington a. Ted Gould (a.) Tavmjong Bah (recused)

Resolution:

The board will subsidize travel for Tav to go to the Sydney SVG WG meeting for a total of up to $2250.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 02:45:46AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:

A majority vote of the current board members is required for this matter.

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Tav would like to attend the SVG working group meeting in Sydney next month.

Proposal:

[ ] a. Approve funding Tav to attend the Sydney SVG WG meeting as outlined below, for a total of up to $2250. [ ] b. Do not approve funding Tav.

Background:

I (Tav) would like funding to attend the Sydney SVG working group meeting, to be held February 11-14, 2015. The first day will be a joint meeting with the CSS working group.

The working group is targeting this meeting to move the SVG 2 specification into "last call" at which point no new features can be added and incomplete features can be dropped. It is an important meeting to attend to make sure that features that are important to Inkscape remain in the specification. The full justification for attending is in the attached proposal (which is also checked into the Inkscape board bzr repository).

The cost of attending (both financial and time) is higher than previous meetings that I have attended with Inkscape's support but I think the importance of this meeting justifies it.

Note, reports from previously attended SVG WG meetings can be found on my blog:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/

At this meeting, the SVG working group plans on moving the SVG 2 specification to "Last Call". At this point the specification is essentially feature complete with no new features to be added and incomplete features removed. It is an important meeting to attend in person to make sure that features important to Inkscape such as mesh gradients, hatched fills, and auto-flowed text are not dropped. It also is a last chance to add new features adopted like text-on-a-shape or resolve problems such as getting proper closing of paths. The meeting also is an opportunity to lobby the browsers to implement SVG 2 features already supported by Inkscape such as the 'context-fill' and 'context-stroke' values for the 'fill' and 'stroke' properties which allows automatically matching marker fill color to path stroke color and the 'auto-reverse-start' value for the marker orientation which allows an arrow marker to be used both at the start and end of a path.

There are typically a number of SVG meetings throughout the year. The total cost of these meetings may represent a non-trivial fraction of Inkscape's annual income, so it may be worthwhile to budget the proportion of Inkscape's income to go to these events. If this is done, the amount approved for this trip will be included in the SVG meetings category.

Progress on SVG 2 can be followed at:

https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/

My presentations at the last SVG working group meeting can be found at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/tpac_2014.html

and a meeting report at:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=1154

Approximate cost for Sydney

Transportation: Paris to Syndey: $1500 6 nights lodging/meals: $ 750

Tavmjong Bah

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