Vote: Apple Developer program
Dear all,
Background: ----------- Creating properly signed and notarized releases for macOS requires a paid membership in Apple's developer program. This membership comes in the form of a yearly subscription. So every year we get to decide anew if we see enough value in signing macOS releases to warrant the expense of 99 € that comes with it.
It is possible to distribute and use unsigned apps on macOS just like on Windows. The downside is that a user has to take additional (but not overly complicated) steps to make this work while macOS itself discourages people from using unsigned apps.
Proposal: --------- We've been creating signed macOS apps since 1.0 and I propose to continue this practice at the expense of 99 €.
Additional information: ----------------------- Whatever the PLC decides in this case here is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to my purchase decision. I am buying this either way. The question is only if I'm going to use it for Inkscape or not.
Votes: ------ a. Agree to spend 99 € on the Apple Developer program ("I want signed macOS releases") b. Disapprove participation in the Apple Developer program ("I do not want signed macOS releases") c. Other: ________
Best regards, René
I vote a.
We should budget this annually.
----- Original Message ----- | From: "René de Hesselle" dehesselle@icloud.com | To: "Inkscape Board" inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org | Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 6:55:58 PM | Subject: [Inkscape-board] Vote: Apple Developer program | | Dear all, | | Background: | ----------- | Creating properly signed and notarized releases for macOS requires a | paid membership in Apple's developer program. This membership comes | in the form of a yearly subscription. So every year we get to decide | anew if we see enough value in signing macOS releases to warrant the | expense of 99 € that comes with it. | | It is possible to distribute and use unsigned apps on macOS just like | on Windows. The downside is that a user has to take additional (but | not overly complicated) steps to make this work while macOS itself | discourages people from using unsigned apps. | | Proposal: | --------- | We've been creating signed macOS apps since 1.0 and I propose to | continue this practice at the expense of 99 €. | | Additional information: | ----------------------- | Whatever the PLC decides in this case here is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT | to my purchase decision. I am buying this either way. The question | is only if I'm going to use it for Inkscape or not. | | Votes: | ------ | a. Agree to spend 99 € on the Apple Developer program | ("I want signed macOS releases") | b. Disapprove participation in the Apple Developer program | ("I do not want signed macOS releases") | c. Other: ________ | | | Best regards, | René | | _______________________________________________ | Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- | inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org | To unsubscribe send an email to | inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org |
I vote A.
I agree that this should be a regular planned expense. I see it as necessary "infrastructure" to support that platform properly.
Is it necessary for us to approve this annually or could we put up a separate vote to renew in perpetuity until either price or terms change, or someone calls a review on it?
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Oct 22, 2024, 09:56 René de Hesselle dehesselle@icloud.com wrote:
Dear all,
Background:
Creating properly signed and notarized releases for macOS requires a paid membership in Apple's developer program. This membership comes in the form of a yearly subscription. So every year we get to decide anew if we see enough value in signing macOS releases to warrant the expense of 99 € that comes with it.
It is possible to distribute and use unsigned apps on macOS just like on Windows. The downside is that a user has to take additional (but not overly complicated) steps to make this work while macOS itself discourages people from using unsigned apps.
Proposal:
We've been creating signed macOS apps since 1.0 and I propose to continue this practice at the expense of 99 €.
Additional information:
Whatever the PLC decides in this case here is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to my purchase decision. I am buying this either way. The question is only if I'm going to use it for Inkscape or not.
Votes:
a. Agree to spend 99 € on the Apple Developer program ("I want signed macOS releases") b. Disapprove participation in the Apple Developer program ("I do not want signed macOS releases") c. Other: ________Best regards, René
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Dear all,
I also vote a.
Best regards
Jonathan
Am 22.10.24 um 18:55 schrieb René de Hesselle:
Dear all,
Background:
Creating properly signed and notarized releases for macOS requires a paid membership in Apple's developer program. This membership comes in the form of a yearly subscription. So every year we get to decide anew if we see enough value in signing macOS releases to warrant the expense of 99 € that comes with it.
It is possible to distribute and use unsigned apps on macOS just like on Windows. The downside is that a user has to take additional (but not overly complicated) steps to make this work while macOS itself discourages people from using unsigned apps.
Proposal:
We've been creating signed macOS apps since 1.0 and I propose to continue this practice at the expense of 99 €.
Additional information:
Whatever the PLC decides in this case here is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to my purchase decision. I am buying this either way. The question is only if I'm going to use it for Inkscape or not.
Votes:
a. Agree to spend 99 € on the Apple Developer program ("I want signed macOS releases") b. Disapprove participation in the Apple Developer program ("I do not want signed macOS releases") c. Other: ________Best regards, René
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a, as every year :)
On 22/10/2024 18:55, René de Hesselle wrote:
Dear all,
Background:
Creating properly signed and notarized releases for macOS requires a paid membership in Apple's developer program. This membership comes in the form of a yearly subscription. So every year we get to decide anew if we see enough value in signing macOS releases to warrant the expense of 99 € that comes with it.
It is possible to distribute and use unsigned apps on macOS just like on Windows. The downside is that a user has to take additional (but not overly complicated) steps to make this work while macOS itself discourages people from using unsigned apps.
Proposal:
We've been creating signed macOS apps since 1.0 and I propose to continue this practice at the expense of 99 €.
Additional information:
Whatever the PLC decides in this case here is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to my purchase decision. I am buying this either way. The question is only if I'm going to use it for Inkscape or not.
Votes:
a. Agree to spend 99 € on the Apple Developer program ("I want signed macOS releases") b. Disapprove participation in the Apple Developer program ("I do not want signed macOS releases") c. Other: ________Best regards, René
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Vote A.
Though, I would hope you would consider signing it even if the Inkscape project didn't pay for it. Seems like it is something good for users either way. Ted On Oct 22 2024, at 11:55 am, René de Hesselle dehesselle@icloud.com wrote:
Dear all,
Background:
Creating properly signed and notarized releases for macOS requires a paid membership in Apple's developer program. This membership comes in the form of a yearly subscription. So every year we get to decide anew if we see enough value in signing macOS releases to warrant the expense of 99 € that comes with it.
It is possible to distribute and use unsigned apps on macOS just like on Windows. The downside is that a user has to take additional (but not overly complicated) steps to make this work while macOS itself discourages people from using unsigned apps. Proposal:
We've been creating signed macOS apps since 1.0 and I propose to continue this practice at the expense of 99 €.
Additional information:
Whatever the PLC decides in this case here is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to my purchase decision. I am buying this either way. The question is only if I'm going to use it for Inkscape or not.
Votes:
a. Agree to spend 99 € on the Apple Developer program ("I want signed macOS releases") b. Disapprove participation in the Apple Developer program ("I do not want signed macOS releases") c. Other: ________
Best regards, René
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participants (7)
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Jonathan Neuhauser -
Josh Andler -
Marc Jeanmougin -
Martin Owens -
René de Hesselle -
tavmjong＠free.fr -
Ted Gould