On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:

Yes, Gratipay can be added to "the list" - re my previous message about
Flattr, in which Martin mentioned also, Patreon. (Sorry I don't know how to
link to another email thread. Oh, I'll link to the archive....
http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/donations-Flattr-tp4973285.html)

Yes, I've seen that. I guess every way has own merits. I am using Gratipay
because it is open source, and you can really change anything about that if
you feel that there should be a better art, different wording or donation
handling mechanism.

That was the main advantage for me over Flattr. As for the Patreon, I am
impressed with the art side of it. But it feel like a more suitable place to
support individuals doing creative work than for open source teams doing
software development. But I am biased.

Again, I would volunteer to manage the accounts (not the money, of course,
but the webpages) at all of these. It's just that I'm not sure I have the
authority to set up the pages/accounts.

Well, I guess somebody who manages current PayPal should do this.
From the http://staging.inkscape.org/en/donate/ page it is Software
Freedom Conservancy, which does not have the Gratipay account
https://gratipay.com/on/twitter/conservancy/

I once thought about proposing SFC to set Gratipay channel, but

couldn't find a public contact point for keeping conversation tracked.

Or, Idk, maybe it would be better to just choose one of these, instead of
having multiple accounts to manage. If there is one which doesn't take a
fee, I would say that would be ideal! (Because when these apparently noble
groups who just want to support "the starving artist" or "the starving
programmer" take a fee, they start to look less noble, in my eyes.)(my
opinion)

Providing multiple channels is an interesting idea for improving fundraising

efforts. It can also cover better auditory. I expect many artists to have a
Patreon account. Aside from Gratipay I've seen open source developers
using Stripe or Bitcoin directly. So it would be interesting to compare
donation from "open source" vs "artist" communities.

While Flattr takes 10%, and Patreon takes 5% plus credit card fees, it
appears Gratipay is less "transparent". The Gratipay terms say
"
Fees
Gratipay reserves the right to charge service fees based on the total amount
of your transaction. Such fees are subject to change without notice and in
Gratipay's sole discretion. All Gratipay fees will be disclosed to you
before you complete your transaction."

>From my point of view, that makes it difficult for a potential recipient of
these donations, to decide whether to use the service. But again, my
opinion :-)

Yes, that looks like a bug in explanations. =)
https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3319

I've added a table to track the fees.
https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/pull/3329/files

As far as I can tell there is no fee for Gratipay service - it is fuelled by
direct donations - https://gratipay.com/about/pricing - the fees above
are set by payment providers. Well, except Bitcoin, but this needs

further clarifications. Last time I've heard about that, the Coinbase was

used.

[Off Topic - I'll be interested to look up D3.js, to perhaps add it to the
new page I'm making for the Inkscape website, about animation and Inkscape
(first draft and still under development:
http://staging.inkscape.org/en/learn/animation-and-inkscape). :-) ]

Anti-offtopic. The data file with fees is actually a thing that I want to

visualize in D3.js, but I'd like to do the infographics in Inkscape.

anatoly t.