Hi Joshua,
Did you play with the LPE's? What is missing from the LPE's that could immitate skeletal strokes?
What about the LPE names? Please note again that the difference between Path along Path and Pattern along Path is *not* that one can bend complex objects and the other can't.
Thanks! Johan
-----Original Message----- From: Joshua Blocher [mailto:verbalshadow@...400...] Sent: dinsdag 6 november 2007 19:59 To: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan) Cc: buliabyak@...400...; inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Names of LPEs
On 11/6/07, J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Joshua Blocher [mailto:verbalshadow@...400...] Sent: dinsdag 6 november 2007 2:07 To: bulia byak Cc: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan); inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Names of LPEs
Instead of pattern along path why not call it Bend Object
or Object
along Path if we want to be verbose. It is less confusing
and genric
enough to encapulate groups, shapes, patterns, etc..
Bend Path and Bend Object seem to be good names for the
effects to me.
I'm afraid again I've been unclear. The current 'pattern
along path' can only bend single paths along paths. The current 'Bend path' can (in principle without too much effort) bend objects.
It'd not you explaining it's me not understanding. I think i have it straight pattern along path is one path bent to one path and path along path bends one object along one path Correct me if i'm wrong we can talk about it on jabber today or tomorrow.
I think a lot of reference problem i'm having is p.a.p. in text could be either one.
So perhaps we should name the 'Bend path' effect just 'Bend' ?
Please note that the naming and user understanding is
probably needed
for stacking. When effects are stacked, 'pattern along path' cannot bend the output of the effect before it. It uses that output as 'skeletal strokes'. Perhaps I should rename the p.a.p. effect to skeletal strokes. You draw some paths, and then when
Based on My above understanding (yes I need to play with it in Inkscape some more) by one path : one path is not the equalivent of of Skeletal Strokes one object : one path is closer (but still miss some of the functionality, I'm not blaming anyone). I think we should avoid using skeletal strokes until we have the full functionality. Cause if anyone has used Expression3 they are going to expect alot out of that function. I know I will cause it is an absolutely amazing tool IMO.( For those who have not played with Expression3, think calligraphy tool with the abilty to use any object as it's "brush" and it bends to the path.)
you want to 'stroke' those paths with something complicated, you
should use p.a.p. When you want to bend the paths you have drawn, you should use 'bend path'. Or just 'bend'. In a stack, 'bend' *does* bend the output of the effect before it.
Effect #1 proposed names: 'pattern along path' 'skeletal strokes' 'stroke with path' <= my choice at this moment...
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Effect #2 proposed names: 'path along path' 'bend path' 'bend object' 'bend' <= my choice at this moment
Overall I think that if you could merge the two effects it would greatly reduce the confusion and just call it bend. If that not possible calling whichever one can bend complex objects Bend Object and the other Bend Path would be best.
'subcurve stitching' => rename to 'stitch subcurves'
I am trying to end up with somewhat of a 'rule' for naming effects. The above choices reflect the following useage: Draw 2 subpaths and 'stitch [the result's] subcurves'. Then 'stroke [the result] with path'. And then 'bend [the result]'. A user can think:
What would I
like to do? I'd like to ('bend','stroke','stitch') my shape ('', 'with path',
'subcurves'). :-) Probably too much of idealistic approach?
I need to play with stitching.
Cheers, Johan
Have good day, Joshua L. Blocher verbalshadow