Thanks CR,
I understand the need to make the best presentation.
In this case, I pushed to get the article done pretty quickly, so what I'll do next time is open the editing itself up. That way multiple people can edit the text of the article before it goes live.
And we'll kick it off when the hackfest starts.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2017-07-14 at 16:11 +0100, C R wrote:
No, that's too brief a response. It will raise questions. :)
For the record, I like the article as-is. Just thought since it was being published as the official hackfest summary there was more room for changes (like most of the other content on the site). I didn't mean to offend anyone. Indeed, I wouldn't have thought how to improve the message if I'd not read the initial. So at best I'd have been building on the work already done.
I'd be interested to know if there's a difference between what I experienced as a "non-coder" and everyone else who wrote code at and after the hackfest. I mean when I was talking through user interaction with inkscape with Tav and you, Martin, we were doing the same thing together. When I made the icons, and got feedback from peoplle that requested them, we were doing the same thing there too. It was doing stuff together that was enjoyable, not what was done specifically.
I used to code, and group-coding gave me the same thrill that working in a group does when everyone was doing different things. It's the common goal that matters. That's really the motivation. So for me it's not really useful to write a different article from a different perspective, since I don't honestly believe it was a different perspective.
Was just thinking we could take what's already written, and gear it towards the benefit of the project. I do a lot of this sort of thing for work, so it's something else I could help out with.
Always at your service, -C
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:42 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
Don't want to step on anyone's toes. I'll wait till next year.
-C
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
Hi CR,
Writing an article which provides the same functionality as the one which is now published and out there, might be too late now and will create some problems. Firstly because it will recreate work, but also because it'll make the author feel like his work and process was so deficient that only a rewrite would make it work.
The best option is to create an additional article. I have no problems publishing more than one article about the hackfest from different authors, different perspectives. So if you'd like to pen an article about being a non-coding hackfest attendee and write it from a personal perspective. Or maybe write more in depth about the social events. Or some other aspect (that I can't even imagine) It wouldn't be an issue at all.
I would insist though that you will have to use the website to submit the article. I can help make sure your user account is set up will the right staff privileges to write articles if you'd like to do it.
The other completely different angle is to submit an article to a personal blog. We used to have planet.inkscape.org to publish blogs from inkscape contributors, so blogging is a completely legit way of writing about Inkscape.
Let me know.
Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2017-07-14 at 09:29 +0100, C R wrote:
To my mind, the summary should serve these purposes:
- List and showcase what was done at the hackfest
- Show the fun everyone had working together during and after
the hackfest 3. Generate excitement for future hackfests, both to attract funding and participants. 4. Show that you don't have to fly out to participate in the hackfest, and it can be done remotely like Jabier did.
The problems we had at the venue probably shouldn't be mentioned unless there's some purpose for doing so. It sounds like an excuse that we didn't get more done, and we got a lot accomplished in just 4+ days. (I think we should mention the fact that many participants were motivated to keep working after the 4 days were over to get some of the new features finished up, and make sure regressions are handled.
Things that were particularly inspiring for me was seeing all the students using Inkscape randomly in the room next to ours (I have some pictures of it). When you see the extent to which Inkscape is used and enjoyed by others, the scope of what you are contributing to comes into focus, and it's very motivating. I think we should share such things with our developers and user community. When you are giving to Inkscape, you are giving a tremendous gift to the entire world, and the results of your efforts are amplified millions of times to people who rely on Inkscape for their work, education and play.
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:57 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
We could also add some links to screenshots and materials of what was worked on to show some of the great work that was done by each member of our hackfest team (meybe it would be good to include the pieces that were worked on in the mouse-over information of the hackfest photo too?
Thoughts? -C
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:54 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
If we are okay with waiting until the weekend, I can do a write- up of the hackfest, and add more pictures, and include what was exciting for me about what we accomplished. I think the current write-up is quite good, so I'll use it as a basis and reference for my version.
I feel we could shout more about the venue (it was an incredible place!) and give an insight into the excitement that accompanies the hackfest event. Maybe get more people excited about joining us next time, if we'd like that.
-C
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...3363... il.com > > wrote: > > Thanks Elisa, > > Can you add all the photos under your account on > inkscape.org? > I'll > make sure they go into the right gallery, but if you > upload > them, then > the attribution is to you, which is the best way. > > You can drag and drop onto the blue submit button here: > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=photograph/elisa-hackfes > t-2017 > / > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 10:38 +0200, Elisa Godoy de Castro > Guerra > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks Maren. > > Yes, i work on the english inkscape documentation (not > > in > > translating > > but in one of the task put in the bug tracker of the > > documentation). > > Maren work with me remotely, with lot of tips etc. > > > > See work on : http://floss.booktype.pro/start-with-inks > > cape/i > > ntroduct > > ion/ > > > > I made some fotos : > > visible here : https://photos.app.goo.gl/siWi1NnIVd06rn > > xW2 > > I'm happy to put them on the website, but maybe they > > are too > > many. So > > maybe You can choose some and i put it there. > > > > Cedric work on 2 things : > > - 1 : i don't remember, he has discussed with the dev > > team > > about.... > > Tav ? Mc ? > > - 2 : about changing the ui > > but both no sucess > > > > 2 days work is too little to kind of hack. > > > > Both Cedric and me had think on the suggestion of next > > improvement > > about the text tool of Tav and made some suggestions to > > him > > regarding > > text and css. > > > > Regards, > > Elisa > > > > > > > > > > 2017-07-12 18:22 GMT+02:00 Maren Hachmann <maren@...3574... > > aberma > > nn.de>: > > > > > > > > > You forgot to mention Elisa and Cédric :) > > > Also, what happened on the other 3 days? > > > Any info on the barbecue? > > > > > > Maren > > > > > > Am 12.07.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus: > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017, 11:27:20 CEST schrieb > > > > Martin > > > > Owens: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear developers, > > > > Dear Martin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the draft of the news article. Please > > > > > review > > > > > for > > > spellings, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > omissions and errors: > > > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/827/ > > > > Some remarks after a quick reading: > > > > > > > > - 1st paragraph: "where and where" should be "were > > > > and > > > > where" > > > > - 2nd paragraph: "wifi" should be "WIFI" > > > > - 3rd paragraph: You probably want to start > > > > "inkscape" > > > > with an > > > uppercase 'I' > > > > > > > > > > > > - 3rd paragraph: "svg" should be spelled "SVG" > > > > - 3rd paragraph: "Gimp" should be spelled "GIMP" > > > > - 3rd paragraph: "Gtk3" should be spelled "GTK3", > > > > "Gtk" > > > > should be > > > "GTK" > > > > > > > > > > > > - 3rd paragraph: "Gnome" -> "GNOME" > > > > - 3rd paragraph: "glade" -> "Glade" > > > > - 5th paragraph: "Gimp" -> "GIMP" > > > > - 5th paragraph: "xpm" -> "XPM" > > > > - 6th paragraph: "Gnome" -> "GNOME" > > > > - 6th paragraph: "allow no only" -> "allow not > > > > only" > > > > - 7th paragraph: "Although this was fine" misses a > > > > "but > > > > ..." > > > part. 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