Retitled - "License for the new manual" (was "Any chance we can make some docs.....")  Also copying in Sylvain, since he's been working on translation.  I know there's another translator, but I can't seem to open the manual today, to look it up.  So if someone knows who that is, please copy them in to this new thread.

We should sort out what license we will offer the new manual under as

a first step,  before starting any work. We need to reach a consensus
before work can proceed.

Well, considering work has already started on the manual (the translating part), we might be a little behind the 8 ball.  But I agree that we need to nail down the license asap.

Retitling this to start the discussion.

Also, according to

https://fr.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/about-this-book/
This document is GPL v3.
I recommend against choosing this license, as it requires all other
content used along with the parts of it to be gpl 3, which is
unnecessarily restrictive, especially for a document of this type.

Well that's the same license as Inkscape.  How is it too restrictive?

For me, the main point is that it needs a license that will allow anyone to edit it.  We can't get stuck with an outdated manual and have no way to edit it (as a community), ever again.

All best,
brynn

-----Original Message----- From: C R
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 4:22 AM
To: brynn
Cc: Nicolas Dufour ; Maren Hachmann ; inkscape-devel ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)

Also, according to
https://fr.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/about-this-book/

This document is GPL v3.
I recommend against choosing this license, as it requires all other
content used along with the parts of it to be gpl 3, which is
unnecessarily restrictive, especially for a document of this type.

We should sort out what license we will offer the new manual under as
a first step,  before starting any work. We need to reach a consensus
before work can proceed.

-C


On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:14 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:

Is anyone discussing a copyrighted book or manual at this point? If
so, let's not. It's Copyleft or Public Domain. No proprietary books or
content should be included in official Inkscape documentation. We need
to be able to freely revise, edit, distribute without the legal
entanglements.

-C

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 8:28 AM, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:

- How does version control work for booktype?

This question will probably make more sense when you make the next post you
promised from a different message.  I had asked why we were talking about
using gitlab and all that, if we were still focused on the FLOSS
translation/manual. And you said you had an idea to present that you didn't
have time at that moment.

I can't really see a marriage of these 2 projects (free manual, copyrighted
book of tutorials).  But I'm looking forward to hearing your proposal :-)

All best,
brynn

-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 1:28 PM
To: Nicolas Dufour ; brynn ; C R
Cc: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some
docs material? (targeting the moon)


Hi Nicolas :D,

thank you!

What I would like to know (and what is now buried deep in the email
stream) is:

- How does version control work for booktype? Could it be combined with
a git repository, or does it use a fully independent system?
(I couldn't find a direct hint, maybe it's just using the django
database to keep track of changes/edits?)

- What is the source file format of booktype? Markdown? (guessing from
the requirements for pip)

Regards,
Maren

Am 01.05.2017 um 21:08 schrieb Nicolas Dufour:

Hi all,

I'm just back from two weeks away, and as the thread is very long now
I didn't find time to read everything. Sorry if I'm off-topic.

Le Lundi 1 mai 2017 13h07, Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> a
écrit :

I only wish Nicolas or Elisa could be here to give us some more
in-depth

info about their server's capabilities

Not sure what you mean. Of course the Inkscape project can use the
French FM server for the translation, but note that an English
version also exists (http://write.flossmanuals.net/). It would
probably be easier to work on the English server directly.

and their book's licencing.

If I remember correctly, the GPLv2 was the first license that was
chosen when the FM project was created about 10 years ago, and some
books still use it. But the server allows users to choose a different
license when creating a new book (CC, GPL, PD). As for the Inkscape
book, I see it's under a GPLv3. I don't know if it can be changed
(and how) or not. Elisa could probably give more details.

Regards, -- Nicolas