Am 01.05.2017 um 08:03 schrieb brynn:
- We need to make sure that users know about the rules, and find a
place in the django app where to link to them. Any ideas what would be the best place?
Arghh!! I meant to add that in my last reply to you and Martin privately, and forgot. We definitely need to put a link to the CoC on all the upload forms!!
- Can you make that a report? It's important, but I fear it might drown in the current email flood. We have several upload forms where this would need to be added.
- We'll need moderators, once the moderation app works again. Would
someone like to recruit volunteers, find out how the system works, explain it to them (and also accompany them a bit, for their first actions)?
Recruiting volunteer moderators is probably not my strong suit. Hey, should we put it on the To-Do List page? Call for new moderators? This moderation system needs....I'd say maybe 3 to 5 moderators? It can work with 2, but more would be better.
- I'd say putting a call out on user mailing list and forums would be a better option (because experiences with the ToDo list show that, well, mostly nothing happens...)
Oh, I don't mind hand-holding new moderators at all. I hate to say "training". But because of this moderation system, which is unlike any moderation I've ever seen before, it will take some little practice to get comfortable. For most moderation systems, even newbies can be thrown in, and they quickly learn to swim. But this is different. Martin has some serious skills!!
- Yes, he's thinking quite out-of-the-box :)
And by the way, I'd like to remind everyone that he's built the entire website, almost entirely on his own, from scratch, starting with nothing, coding the whole thing!! He's had some help here and there (Maren, Jabiertxof, Sylvain, not sure who else). But most was all him.
Yay for Martin, right?!!
- Right :D
Maren
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 4:09 PM To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website moderation policy
Sounds very good to me. I'd keep the 'related to' in.
Retroactive seems to be unfair to me. There aren't that many
resources of that kind anyway. How about adding a comment, and just hinting at a change in the CoC, asking the user if they would like to upload some work that is more suitable?
Thank you, Brynn and Eduard and everyone involved. This was a major obstacle in getting moderation on the website up and running.
Additionally:
- We need to make sure that users know about the rules, and find a
place in the django app where to link to them. Any ideas what would be the best place?
- We'll need moderators, once the moderation app works again. Would
someone like to recruit volunteers, find out how the system works, explain it to them (and also accompany them a bit, for their first actions)?
(5. The moderation app needs to work again - javascript isn't my domain, though.)
Kind Regards, Maren
Am 29.04.2017 um 21:02 schrieb brynn:
Hi Everyone, I just want to follow up and try to close this issue, so the once the moderation features are officially online, we have our guidelines to follow. (They're officially online for blatant things, but not sure about for everything.)
1 -- I thought the following suggestion from Eduard really does cover everything I was thinking. Does anyone have any objections to editing the CoC as follows (https://inkscape.org/en/community/coc/) :
"Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere to the following rules:"
with:
"Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. created with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with Inkscape, etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem appropriate or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:"
If no objections, I'd like to edit the CoC as above.
2 -- Should these changes be retroactive, or not? I'm thinking not, but I could go either way.
I don't think it needs to be written into the CoC about being retroactive or not. But I'm not sure. Anyone else have a thought or opinion?
Thank you very much, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:49 PM To: Martin Owens ; Ken Moffat ; inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net ; Eduard Braun Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website moderation policy
Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g.
created with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with Inkscape, etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem appropriate or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules: [...]
I like that very much!
I'd propose having that to replace:
"Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere to the following rules:"
Anyone else, other thoughts?
Thanks again, brynn
PS - cross posting into Docs list, to make sure the whole website team sees it.
-----Original Message----- From: Eduard Braun Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:31 AM To: Martin Owens ; brynn ; Ken Moffat ; inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website moderation policy
Am 24.04.2017 um 12:02 schrieb Martin Owens:
On Mon, 2017-04-24 at 03:52 -0600, brynn wrote:
But it's more because this would be a change in policy, that it needs to be discussed. And before we can start using the new moderation features, and deleting random type of photos, it must be stated in the CoC.
Or maybe there should be a whole separate policy on website content? Does anyone have any comments on that?
It's really a use policy, but we've sandwhiched it into the code of conduct for brevity:
https://inkscape.org/en/community/coc/
It could be it's own document like the privacy policy though if we had enough of it:
https://inkscape.org/en/about/privacy/
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Why not just add (as the first point or general description) of the section "Guidelines for user-submitted content" some rather general note along the lines of: Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. created with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with Inkscape, etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem appropriate or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules: [...]
This way we can continue to accept high quality content (even if it's not directly related to Inkscape and would fail stricter guidelines) and have the possibility to grandfather in some already uploaded file while always having the possibility to reject content that is unfit for inclusion.
Regards, Eduard
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