On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:43:31 -0700 From: Jon A. Cruz <jon@...18...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: Kees Cook <inkscape@...62...>, Inkscape is a vector graphics editor inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape stats 9/15/05
On Sep 16, 2005, at 7:28 PM, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Kees Cook wrote:
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:41:01 -0700 From: Kees Cook <inkscape@...62...> To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape stats 9/15/05
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 04:34:18PM -0400, mental@...3... wrote:
We might want to consider "moving on" and looking to host a bugzilla somewhere. I've had a few situations where I thought "oh, damn, I can't do that in SF's tracker..."
(or some other kind; I just prefer bugzilla because I'm familiar with it)
No, bugzilla is just better ;)
Better for some things, but not for others.
My vote is definitely that for our main needs the SF tracker is OK. Not great, but OK.
In raw capability Bugzilla has more capabilities, but much of the complexity goes against some of our main needs, including a low barrier to entry for outsiders.
Which is why I pointed out bug-buddy.
When it comes to low barrier of entry I think other ways such as the wiki, the mailing list (list admins would have to clear messages from non-subscribers but I expect you must do that already) or even IRC/Jabber Chat allow user to come in and express their opinion. Any really good suggestions should motivate us enough to create a bug report for the issue even if the user doesn't want to, that would bring the barrier even lower if that is what you really want.
I've used many other systems over the years, and I think the basics are all there. So far I've not seen enough added value in switching to anything else. Yes, there are some benefits, but I've not seen enough to tip the balance.
I never going to stop pushing you guys to get more closely invovled with Gnome, just as others will always care about implementing the SVG standards or writing well documented code. (Having said that there are projects in Gnome CVS less involved with Gnome than Inkscape is already but it is something I believe is important and can be beneficial.)
While I'm jumping from subject to subject I may as well mention that mirroring the po files in Gnome CVS would be a good way to improve the quality and consistency of the translations too (been discussing it in the context of another project and the Ubuntu rosetta project has potential too).
Now, Mozilla is another matter. For them it might be good. However, if you'd like my opinions on much of that you'll have to ask me privately. (A bit off-topic for this list).
I'd be interested to know more about what you consider the downsides of Bugzilla as I haven't experienced that many bug trackers (and issue ticketing systems seem to fit into a different category and serve quite a different purpose). Please do let me know on or offlist about what you dont like about Bugzilla.
Sincerely
Alan Horkan. http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/