"If it isn't svg we shouldn't be doing anything other than importing/exporting it."
I totally agree.

"The real problem is that saving / exporting to a raster format is different than saving to a vector format. Raster saving has many more
options to specify the area of the export."
Raster saving might have more options, but why not just show a popup screen if some options are available when saving to anything other than svg? That is how most software packages seem to handle this issue.

I also disagree with how Illustrator and Blender handles this. They also have "Save As", "Save a copy", and "Export". That doesn't mean anything to me if I don't have experience with the software. 

This is what I would do:
-Ban working on a fileformat which is lossy. That is too risky. Only use inkscape SVG as the working document. This is the only format "Save" would save to.
-Don't use "Save a Copy". The functionality is great (I use it all the time), but the terminology sucks. Instead, put this functionality in "Export". But return to the Inkscape SVG working document after saved.
-Do not use "Export" And "Save As / Save a Copy" at the same time. They sound too similar and is too confusing. Pick one. I would go with just "Save" (only Inkscape SVG, no save options), and "Export" (anything else, with save options after clicking Export). 
-Do not put the Export PNG in a different panel which fits in the toolbar. It should be a popup so it is easy to find. The same type of popup which is used for all the other Export file formats.
-To improve workflow, offer the ability not to show a popup when exporting a file, but use the settings from Edit-Preferences menu instead.


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 18:51 +0100, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
> I don't think there is a behavioral difference between 'Save a Copy'
> and 'Export' - for me those are synonyms. The difference between Open
> and Import is that the former opens a new document and the latter adds
> the imported content to the current document.
>
> The real problem is that saving / exporting to a raster format is
> different than saving to a vector format. Raster saving has many more
> options to specify the area of the export. Yet, I think many people
> would find it useful to have those options available in vector formats
> as well. This way there would be no need to distinguish between saving
> and exporting.
>
> The mockup with the checkbox doesn't seem like a good idea to me - I
> think it would be prone to errors. The actions 'I want to save my
> changes' and 'I want to make a new file with this content' are
> conceptually dissimilar enough to warrant separate menu items.

I agree completely Krzysztof, I think you have the right idea about how
to change the system so it reduces menu items /and/ improves flow.
Should we test your design at LGM with other attendees?

Martin,


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