On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, MenTaLguY wrote:
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:38:52 -0500 From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> To: Inkscape ML inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] button size
On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 21:52, bulia byak wrote:
I think the size contrast may be a bit more pronounced. However, making secondary buttons smaller is bad, they're hardly visible already. Especially the raise/lower buttons are hard to decipher, they're too complex and dark, perhaps someone will have to redraw them eventually. The main toolbar buttons may be made a bit larger, IMHO.
Could you all experiment with some different sizes and see what looks good to you?
My brain is saying different sizes := inconsistancy => bad! but try it and see.
Also, can we rearrange the toolbars so that the corner is occupied by the secondary toolbar, not the primary? Rationale: secondary toolbar may ultimately need lots of space for all its controls, so every pixel counts. The primary, on the other hand, is unlikely to grow significantly.
This would be good.
Well, as it is the toolbar size forces the window to a fairly large minimum height. I'm a little uncomfortable forcing a much larger minimum size.
Do you think it would be okay to permit the button bar to be cut off if the window is resized smaller?
Yes, the toolbar widget should have some indicator if the window has been shrunk too small for all the buttons to be seen. If it doesn't the widget needs to be fixed (custom widgets bad!) or Inkscape needs to use a newer version of GTK that incorportates the libegg toolbar that does this properly. (standard widgets good!)
And if you do that, can you provide a bit of separation between the toolbars by moving the primary one to the bottom a little? Ultimately I would like to see in that interval a "handle" that will let me drag the toolbar e.g. to the right edge or make it floatable, but until then, let it be just a few pixels of empty space.
Well, perhaps I should use the GTK detachable toolbar widget there, though the plain GTK one is kind of weak. :/
Hope that helps
Sincerely
Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/
P.S. custom widgets aren'tall bad if maintaining custom widgets is what you are interested in, but I'm confident that developing a fully featured Vector Graphics program is what really interest you.