On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 01:25:53AM +0100, Tobias Bernard wrote:
Hi Bryce,
Mailing lists are old-school, and not very productive for discussion in my experience, IRC requires you to be online to see messages and doesn't really work on mobile, and Launchpad is, well, Launchpad ;)
It would be nice if IRC could be replaced with Matrix or some other more modern alternative. For design work, I find the most important thing in communication tools is inline image/media support, which makes Email+Launchpad+IRC a particularly bad combination.
Valid complaint against IRC regarding offline messages. Like Ryan mentioned, we've established RocketChat, which addresses that specific point.
I don't see us moving away from mailing lists in general, although the additional communication channels we're adding may make them less used.
What I don't quite understand is why all the old bugs need to be migrated before allowing opening new ones on Gitlab. What's the reasoning there?
Actually, the plan discussed at the board meeting was to start using Gitlab for new issues after 1.0alpha is released. Migration of old bugs would proceed after that. Someday, if/when all the old bugs are migrated then we can close _down_ launchpad.
I'd be happy to help out with bug triaging on Gitlab if that's needed.
Thanks, that'll be quite helpful.
Bryce
Cheers, Tobias
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018, at 01:17, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Hi Tobias
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 12:17:50PM +0100, Tobias Bernard wrote:
Hi all,
I'm a UX designer and long-time Inkscape user. I work at Purism, and I'm on the GNOME design team. I've been meaning to get involved with Inkscape for years, but the tools used for development (Launchpad, mailing lists, IRC) don't make it very easy unfortunately.
We do have changes afoot for all three of those, but I'd like to better understand what it is about them in particular that you find to be not very easy?
I was very happy when I saw the code migrated to Gitlab, because it's a much more modern tool that works great for design issues thanks to inline media (we've been using it in GNOME for the past year and it's been a total game changer).
Unfortunately, though the code is on Gitlab now, it's still not possible to open issues there. I was told this would change "soon" earlier this year, but so far this hasn't happened. Is there a timeline for opening issues on Gitlab? What are the current blockers?
I'd really like to avoid using Launchpad if at all possible :)
In fact, you can see this topic is on the agenda for tomorrow's board meeting, which you're welcome to attend.
You have to understand with as many bug reports that Inkscape has, it's not just a flip of a switch to change bug trackers, and it has impact on a lot of different established workflows.
Not really a blocker, but one of the major concerns is getting manpower to triage bugs in gitlab. So a way you could help in moving things forward here would be to volunteer to participate in this work.
Bryce