Trying to be more precisse:
El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 17:48 +0200, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz escribió:
> Basicaly deconstruct in a "group" of shapes with fills and without
> strokes the fills and retain strokes as strokes taking out his fills.
>
> Sorry for my explain. Maybe CR, can help me a bit :)
The CR option retain strokes of lines as lines, without converting to
fills.
>
> El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 17:40 +0200, Olof Bjarnason escribió:
> >
> > On 7 May 2016 at 17:38, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <
jabier.arraiza@...3285...> > ke
> > r.es>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > HI I just evaluate as 4 option the CR one:
> > > 4. Retain stroke to path and add deconstruct object retaining
> > > lines
> > > as
> > > lines
> > >
> > I don't understand "retaining lines as lines". What does it mean?
> >
> > My option (1) was to retain "Stroke to path" and add "Deconstruct
> > object".
> > How is (4) different from (1) ?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > To me this 4 option -agree with the Olaf 1-3- give:
> > > + More logic to naming in -a pro- user point of view
> > > - Usualy we need two steps to archive this kind of result
> > > - Final user need to be informed about the two steps process.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > >
> > >
> > > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 17:22 +0200, Olof Bjarnason escribió:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7 May 2016 at 16:57, C R <
cajhne@...1761....400...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, to me, "Deconstruct" implies separation of line from
> > > > > fill,
> > > > > but
> > > > > nothing about conversion of the line to fill.
> > > > > If we ever have a function that just separates all parts of a
> > > > > shape
> > > > > object
> > > > > into separate shape objects with lines in-tact,
> > > > > "deconstruct" would fit
> > > > > much better, I think.
> > > > >
> > > > Conceptually it really boils down to whether this command
> > > > Jabier
> > > > developed
> > > > is an improvement of "Stroke to path" or a brand new command.
> > > >
> > > > So we get three options, in my opinion:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Add a new menu item called "Deconstruct object" (or "Stroke
> > > > to
> > > > fill")
> > > > 2. Modify the meaning of "Stroke to path"
> > > > 3. Modify the meaning, and name, of "Stroke to path" to "Stroke
> > > > to
> > > > fill"
> > > > (or "Deconstruct object")
> > > >
> > > > Here's my take on all three, please do your own evaluation too:
> > > > (1) has the consequence of yet another command on that menu,
> > > > but
> > > > no
> > > > confusion to old users (and a little higher threshold to new
> > > > users)
> > > > (2) has the consequence of (possibly) confusing old users, but
> > > > slightly
> > > > improving the situation for new users (the new command is
> > > > undoubtedly
> > > > less
> > > > surprising in behaviour than current Stroke to path) but not so
> > > > much
> > > > (the
> > > > name is still confusing)
> > > > (3) has the consequence of (possibly) confusing old users, but
> > > > improving
> > > > the situation a lot for new users
> > > >
> > > > I prefer (3) even if I'm an old time user, and like (1) least
> > > > of
> > > > the
> > > > options, since I don't like bloat in neither UI nor code. (2)
> > > > is
> > > > middle
> > > > ground for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -C
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Brynn <
brynn@...3133...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's "new and improved" Stroke to Path. Can it just
> > > > > > replace
> > > > > > Stroke to
> > > > > > Path? Or call it "super" stroke to path. Just
> > > > > > kidding. But
> > > > > > "deconstruct"
> > > > > > could be confusing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From simple user :-)
> > > > > > brynn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > From: "Jabier Arraiza" <
jabier.arraiza@...2893...>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 4:58 AM
> > > > > > To: "Brynn" <
brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel"
> > > > > > <
inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [UI] Name for a new function
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here are some screenshots working, notice the not default
> > > > > > > paint
> > > > > > > order:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Before apply:
> > > > > > > View mode :
> > > > > > >
https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstruct-> > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > -14
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Line mode :
> > > > > > >
https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstruct-> > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > -24
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apply : No screen shot my screnshot dont fire when menu
> > > > > > > path is
> > > > > > > open. I
> > > > > > > put a temp item after "stroke to path" menu
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After apply :
> > > > > > > View mode :
> > > > > > >
https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstruct-> > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > -34
> > > > > > > Line mode :
> > > > > > >
https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstruct-> > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > -44
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also another cuestion if finaly is a diferent item in the
> > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > could be
> > > > > > > good have a shortcut.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 11:57 +0200, Jabiertxo Arraiza
> > > > > > > Cenoz
> > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The new effect convert a object with one or more of
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > fill,strokes
> > > > > > > > or marker to a item with all converted to paths, same
> > > > > > > > visual,
> > > > > > > > no more
> > > > > > > > markers or strokes. Also retain paint order.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 03:36 -0600, Brynn escribió:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Seeing how it works would help understanding. From a
> > > > > > > > > simple user:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "deconstruct object" sounds like breaking up any
> > > > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > individual
> > > > > > > > > pieces, maybe like Ungroup, or Break Apart. And I
> > > > > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > > imagine
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > "stroke
> > > > > > > > > to fill" fits with either of those. ("stroke to fill"
> > > > > > > > > sounds like
> > > > > > > > > some kind
> > > > > > > > > of a stripe pattern)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > All best :-)
> > > > > > > > > brynn
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > > From: C R
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 3:13 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: Olof Bjarnason
> > > > > > > > > Cc: Inkscape Devel List
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [UI] Name for a new
> > > > > > > > > function
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes please draw some use case diagrams.
> > > > > > > > > (And I like the renaming too. I'm still much more of
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > than a
> > > > > > > > > developer
> > > > > > > > > of inkscape and that name (stroke to path) has
> > > > > > > > > annoyed
> > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > years!)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Will do! And yes, I'm going to recommend renaming it
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > well. It's
> > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > been a bit of a sticking point in my head as well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -C
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 7 May 2016 11:03, "C R" <
cajhne@...400...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think stroke to path is already a naming convention
> > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > > functionality, so I will keep this name if possible
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > feature
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > too different. If a user will receive most of the
> > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > result I
> > > > > > > > > will try to keep it to avoid confusion. Having too
> > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > features
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > similar behaviours could be frustrating.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Agreed. This is my main reason for proposing a
> > > > > > > > > modification
> > > > > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > behaviour
> > > > > > > > > of Stroke to Path (We can think about renaming it
> > > > > > > > > later,
> > > > > > > > > however
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > may be
> > > > > > > > > confusing to our current user base. As a daily user,
> > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > all for
> > > > > > > > > changing it
> > > > > > > > > to "Strike to Fill", which is what Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > does.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I would strongly suggest not to create a new menu
> > > > > > > > > option if
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > behaviour is
> > > > > > > > > not too different from the expected one if we think
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > users are
> > > > > > > > > going to
> > > > > > > > > keep using it as they were doing before.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To clarify:
> > > > > > > > > 1. Make a red circle with a black stroke
> > > > > > > > > 2. Path > Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Watch the red circle vanish
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Note that I didn't ask Inkscape to throw away the
> > > > > > > > > fill,
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > because there is no shape to contain it anymore.
> > > > > > > > > Since we have Paint Order in trunk now, this is even
> > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > of an
> > > > > > > > > issue; you
> > > > > > > > > don't want Stroke to Path to throw away everything
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > to make
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > shape look the way it is, which may include a stack
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > LPEs
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > markers, not
> > > > > > > > > to mention the fill may include a complex gradient
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > have to
> > > > > > > > > copy and
> > > > > > > > > paste-in-place to recover. The way it has worked has
> > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > been a
> > > > > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > > workflow bottleneck, and Jabier's new function fixes
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > entirely.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would folks like to see some use case and work flow
> > > > > > > > > diagrams?
> > > > > > > > > If so, I can have them ready tomorrow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -C
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Otherwise, reading the feature explanation,
> > > > > > > > > "decompose
> > > > > > > > > object" or
> > > > > > > > > "deconstruct object"sounds self-explanatory to me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't have an answer, but I would raise some
> > > > > > > > > questions
> > > > > > > > > about how
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > it is going to be used: what is the purpose, what is
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > expected
> > > > > > > > > outcome
> > > > > > > > > and I would compare to the stroke to path option to
> > > > > > > > > ensure
> > > > > > > > > that are
> > > > > > > > > enough
> > > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Olof Bjarnason
> > > > > > > > > <olof.bjarn
> > > > > > > > >
ason@...3363...> > > > > > > > > il
> > > > > > > > > .com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > Mvh
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > /Olof
> > > > > > > > > -----------------
> > > > > > > > > Är du systemutvecklare?
> > > > > > > > > Spana in
https://cilamp.se> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 7 May 2016 at 10:14, C R <
cajhne@...400...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Basicly, this is how Stroke to Fill should work.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How it works now:
> > > > > > > > > Ctrl+Alt+C > Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Result: stroke is indeed converted to path, but the
> > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > and all
> > > > > > > > > other parts
> > > > > > > > > of the selection that are not strokes vanish. If any
> > > > > > > > > LPEs
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > applied
> > > > > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > path they are thrown out as well (you need to convert
> > > > > > > > > object to
> > > > > > > > > path
> > > > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > > > this operation to preserve the appearance).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How it should work (this "deconstruct" alternative):
> > > > > > > > > Ctrl+Alt+C > Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Result: All LPE's applied to stroke, then the stroke
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > converted
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > path.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My thought is, if we use the convention that a fill
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > turned
> > > > > > > > > into an
> > > > > > > > > object if there is a fill set on the object, then we
> > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > please
> > > > > > > > > anyone who
> > > > > > > > > prefers the old behaviour. All they have to do is get
> > > > > > > > > rid
> > > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > colour
> > > > > > > > > on the object before applying Stroke to Path.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The current way it's handled is counter-intuitive.
> > > > > > > > > Most
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > time,
> > > > > > > > > all you
> > > > > > > > > want to do is convert the outline to a fill, not
> > > > > > > > > throw
> > > > > > > > > away
> > > > > > > > > tons of
> > > > > > > > > data.
> > > > > > > > > The point is to preserve appearance, and the Jabier's
> > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > function
> > > > > > > > > does this
> > > > > > > > > much much better.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks, that is a good explanation. However the
> > > > > > > > > wording
> > > > > > > > > "stroke to
> > > > > > > > > path"
> > > > > > > > > isn't that clear to me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Now that I understand what is going on I think
> > > > > > > > > "deconstruct" is
> > > > > > > > > actually a
> > > > > > > > > quite good albeit little techy word for the
> > > > > > > > > operation.
> > > > > > > > > "Decompose"?
> > > > > > > > > "Path to
> > > > > > > > > fills"?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The end result is a bunch of filled paths, and the
> > > > > > > > > input is
> > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > exactly? I
> > > > > > > > > think "X to Y" is a good but then the X and the Y
> > > > > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > closer
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > the operation is actually doing ;)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My 2p.
> > > > > > > > > -C
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Olof Bjarnason
> > > > > > > > > <olof.bjarna
> > > > > > > > >
son@...1761....3387...> > > > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is there any image giving an example of what the
> > > > > > > > > command
> > > > > > > > > does...?
> > > > > > > > > Like
> > > > > > > > > before/after with arrows and descriptive text?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's kind of hard to understand what is happening
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > brief
> > > > > > > > > description at the top of that thread...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mvh
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > /Olof
> > > > > > > > > -----------------
> > > > > > > > > Är du systemutvecklare?
> > > > > > > > > Spana in
https://cilamp.se> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 7 May 2016 at 09:53, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz
> > > > > > > > > <jabier.arr
> > > > > > > > >
aiza@...3285...> > > > > > > > > ke
> > > > > > > > > r.es>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi to all UI power!
> > > > > > > > > I Just to know a name for the patch
https://bugs.laun> > > > > > > > > ch
> > > > > > > > > pad.
> > > > > > > > > net/inks
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> > > > > > > > > /+bug/1556592
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