Small update from the impromptu #inkscape-ui meeting today:
Everyone in the channel agreed that Jabier's function is a good replacement for the Stroke to Path function providing that the old functionality is preserved via removing the fill on the object prior to calling the function.
 
Jabier is busy adding support to include LPEs and groups in the conversion, which completes the action.
We also generally agree that the function should be renamed to Stroke to Fill, but we probably need to include more people on this before making the final call on it.

While Jabier is finishing up the code, I'll be doing UI flow diagrams, and we will likely ultimately put out a demo to the community to get oppinions via voting on Inkscape's G+ feed.

We have tentatively moved the release date for this to ver 0.93 release at Jabier's request. If we get it ready in time, cool, but all of us agree it should not be rushed to fit in with the 0.92 release unless we're willing to wait a bit longer for proper testing, etc.

Thoughts?

-C
 





On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Nothing happen if no fills or markers

El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 18:05 +0200, Olof Bjarnason escribió:
> On 7 May 2016 at 17:59, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...360...3313...
> r.es>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Trying to be more precisse:
> > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 17:48 +0200, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz
> > escribió:
> > >
> > > Basicaly deconstruct in a "group" of shapes with fills and
> > > without
> > > strokes the fills and retain strokes as strokes taking out his
> > > fills.
> > >
> > > Sorry for my explain. Maybe CR, can help me a bit :)
> > The CR option retain strokes of lines as lines, without converting
> > to
> > fills.
> >
> OK, so if I draw a couple of lines, and choose "Stroke to
> fill"/"Deconstruct object", nothing would happen?
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 17:40 +0200, Olof Bjarnason escribió:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7 May 2016 at 17:38, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza
> > > > @mar
> > > > ke
> > > > r.es>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HI I just evaluate as 4 option the CR one:
> > > > > 4. Retain stroke to path and add deconstruct object retaining
> > > > > lines
> > > > > as
> > > > > lines
> > > > >
> > > > I don't understand "retaining lines as lines". What does it
> > > > mean?
> > > >
> > > > My option (1) was to retain "Stroke to path" and add
> > > > "Deconstruct
> > > > object".
> > > > How is (4) different from (1) ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To me this 4 option -agree with the Olaf 1-3- give:
> > > > > + More logic to naming in -a pro- user point of view
> > > > > - Usualy we need two steps to archive this kind of result
> > > > > - Final user need to be informed about the two steps process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 17:22 +0200, Olof Bjarnason
> > > > > escribió:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7 May 2016 at 16:57, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, to me, "Deconstruct" implies separation of line from
> > > > > > > fill,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > nothing about conversion of the line to fill.
> > > > > > > If we ever have a function that just separates all parts
> > > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > shape
> > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > into separate shape objects with lines in-tact,
> > > > > > > "deconstruct"  would fit
> > > > > > > much better, I think.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Conceptually it really boils down to whether this command
> > > > > > Jabier
> > > > > > developed
> > > > > > is an improvement of "Stroke to path" or a brand new
> > > > > > command.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we get three options, in my opinion:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Add a new menu item called "Deconstruct object" (or
> > > > > > "Stroke
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > fill")
> > > > > > 2. Modify the meaning of "Stroke to path"
> > > > > > 3. Modify the meaning, and name, of "Stroke to path" to
> > > > > > "Stroke
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > fill"
> > > > > > (or "Deconstruct object")
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's my take on all three, please do your own evaluation
> > > > > > too:
> > > > > > (1) has the consequence of yet another command on that
> > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > confusion to old users (and a little higher threshold to
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > users)
> > > > > > (2) has the consequence of (possibly) confusing old users,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > slightly
> > > > > > improving the situation for new users (the new command is
> > > > > > undoubtedly
> > > > > > less
> > > > > > surprising in behaviour than current Stroke to path) but
> > > > > > not so
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > (the
> > > > > > name is still confusing)
> > > > > > (3) has the consequence of (possibly) confusing old users,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > improving
> > > > > > the situation a lot for new users
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I prefer (3) even if I'm an old time user, and like (1)
> > > > > > least
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > options, since I don't like bloat in neither UI nor code.
> > > > > > (2)
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > middle
> > > > > > ground for me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -C
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Brynn <brynn@...3133...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nice!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   It's "new and improved" Stroke to Path.  Can it just
> > > > > > > > replace
> > > > > > > > Stroke to
> > > > > > > > Path?  Or call it "super" stroke to path.  Just
> > > > > > > > kidding.  But
> > > > > > > > "deconstruct"
> > > > > > > > could be confusing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From simple user :-)
> > > > > > > > brynn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > From: "Jabier Arraiza" <jabier.arraiza@...2893...>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 4:58 AM
> > > > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel"
> > > > > > > > <inkscape-devel@...1239....net>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [UI] Name for a new
> > > > > > > > function
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here are some screenshots working, notice the not
> > > > > > > > > default
> > > > > > > > > paint
> > > > > > > > > order:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Before apply:
> > > > > > > > > View mode :
> > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstr
> > > > > > > > > uct-
> > > > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > > > -14
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Line mode :
> > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstr
> > > > > > > > > uct-
> > > > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > > > -24
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Apply : No screen shot my screnshot dont fire when
> > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > path is
> > > > > > > > > open. I
> > > > > > > > > put a temp item after "stroke to path" menu
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > After apply :
> > > > > > > > > View mode :
> > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstr
> > > > > > > > > uct-
> > > > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > > > -34
> > > > > > > > > Line mode :
> > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85deconstr
> > > > > > > > > uct-
> > > > > > > > > ob
> > > > > > > > > ject
> > > > > > > > > -44
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also another cuestion if finaly is a diferent item in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > could be
> > > > > > > > > good have a shortcut.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 11:57 +0200, Jabiertxo
> > > > > > > > > Arraiza
> > > > > > > > > Cenoz
> > > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The new effect convert a object with one or more of
> > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > fill,strokes
> > > > > > > > > > or marker to a item with all converted to paths,
> > > > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > > visual,
> > > > > > > > > > no more
> > > > > > > > > > markers or strokes. Also retain paint order.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > El sáb, 07-05-2016 a las 03:36 -0600, Brynn
> > > > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Seeing how it works would help
> > > > > > > > > > > understanding.  From a
> > > > > > > > > > > simple user:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "deconstruct object" sounds like breaking up any
> > > > > > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > individual
> > > > > > > > > > > pieces, maybe like Ungroup, or Break Apart.  And
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > > > > imagine
> > > > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > "stroke
> > > > > > > > > > > to fill" fits with either of those. ("stroke to
> > > > > > > > > > > fill"
> > > > > > > > > > > sounds like
> > > > > > > > > > > some kind
> > > > > > > > > > > of a stripe pattern)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > All best  :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > brynn
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > From: C R
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 3:13 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Olof Bjarnason
> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Inkscape Devel List
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [UI] Name for a new
> > > > > > > > > > > function
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes please draw some use case diagrams.
> > > > > > > > > > > (And I like the renaming too. I'm still much more
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > than a
> > > > > > > > > > > developer
> > > > > > > > > > > of inkscape and that name (stroke to path) has
> > > > > > > > > > > annoyed
> > > > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > years!)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Will do! And yes, I'm going to recommend renaming
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > well. It's
> > > > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > > > been a bit of a sticking point in my head as
> > > > > > > > > > > well.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -C
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7 May 2016 11:03, "C R" <cajhne@...400...>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think stroke to path is already a naming
> > > > > > > > > > > convention
> > > > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > > > > functionality, so I will keep this name if
> > > > > > > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > feature
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > too different. If a user will receive most of the
> > > > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > > > result I
> > > > > > > > > > > will try to keep it to avoid confusion. Having
> > > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > features
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > similar behaviours could be frustrating.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. This is my main reason for proposing a
> > > > > > > > > > > modification
> > > > > > > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > > > behaviour
> > > > > > > > > > > of Stroke to Path (We can think about renaming it
> > > > > > > > > > > later,
> > > > > > > > > > > however
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > may be
> > > > > > > > > > > confusing to our current user base. As a daily
> > > > > > > > > > > user,
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > all for
> > > > > > > > > > > changing it
> > > > > > > > > > > to "Strike to Fill", which is what Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > > > does.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I would strongly suggest not to create a new menu
> > > > > > > > > > > option if
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > behaviour is
> > > > > > > > > > > not too different from the expected one if we
> > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > users are
> > > > > > > > > > > going to
> > > > > > > > > > > keep using it as they were doing before.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To clarify:
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Make a red circle with a black stroke
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Path > Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Watch the red circle vanish
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Note that I didn't ask Inkscape to throw away the
> > > > > > > > > > > fill,
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > because there is no shape to contain it anymore.
> > > > > > > > > > > Since we have Paint Order in trunk now, this is
> > > > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > of an
> > > > > > > > > > > issue; you
> > > > > > > > > > > don't want Stroke to Path to throw away
> > > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > > > to make
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > shape look the way it is, which may include a
> > > > > > > > > > > stack
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > LPEs
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > markers, not
> > > > > > > > > > > to mention the fill may include a complex
> > > > > > > > > > > gradient
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > have to
> > > > > > > > > > > copy and
> > > > > > > > > > > paste-in-place to recover. The way it has worked
> > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > > > been a
> > > > > > > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > > > > workflow bottleneck, and Jabier's new function
> > > > > > > > > > > fixes
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > entirely.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Would folks like to see some use case and work
> > > > > > > > > > > flow
> > > > > > > > > > > diagrams?
> > > > > > > > > > > If so, I can have them ready tomorrow.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -C
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise, reading the feature explanation,
> > > > > > > > > > > "decompose
> > > > > > > > > > > object" or
> > > > > > > > > > > "deconstruct object"sounds self-explanatory to
> > > > > > > > > > > me.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don't have an answer, but I would raise some
> > > > > > > > > > > questions
> > > > > > > > > > > about how
> > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > it is going to be used: what is the purpose, what
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > expected
> > > > > > > > > > > outcome
> > > > > > > > > > > and I would compare to the stroke to path option
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > ensure
> > > > > > > > > > > that are
> > > > > > > > > > > enough
> > > > > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Olof Bjarnason
> > > > > > > > > > > <olof.bjarn
> > > > > > > > > > > ason@...3363...
> > > > > > > > > > > il
> > > > > > > > > > > .com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > Mvh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > /Olof
> > > > > > > > > > > -----------------
> > > > > > > > > > > Är du systemutvecklare?
> > > > > > > > > > > Spana in https://cilamp.se
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7 May 2016 at 10:14, C R <cajhne@...1761....400...>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Basicly, this is how Stroke to Fill should work.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How it works now:
> > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+Alt+C > Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Result: stroke is indeed converted to path, but
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > > > and all
> > > > > > > > > > > other parts
> > > > > > > > > > > of the selection that are not strokes vanish. If
> > > > > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > LPEs
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > applied
> > > > > > > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > > > path they are thrown out as well (you need to
> > > > > > > > > > > convert
> > > > > > > > > > > object to
> > > > > > > > > > > path
> > > > > > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > > > > > this operation to preserve the appearance).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How it should work (this "deconstruct"
> > > > > > > > > > > alternative):
> > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+Alt+C > Stroke to Path
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Result: All LPE's applied to stroke, then the
> > > > > > > > > > > stroke
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > converted
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > path.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My thought is, if we use the convention that a
> > > > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > turned
> > > > > > > > > > > into an
> > > > > > > > > > > object if there is a fill set on the object, then
> > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > please
> > > > > > > > > > > anyone who
> > > > > > > > > > > prefers the old behaviour. All they have to do is
> > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > rid
> > > > > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > > > colour
> > > > > > > > > > > on the object before applying Stroke to Path.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The current way it's handled is counter-
> > > > > > > > > > > intuitive.
> > > > > > > > > > > Most
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > time,
> > > > > > > > > > > all you
> > > > > > > > > > > want to do is convert the outline to a fill, not
> > > > > > > > > > > throw
> > > > > > > > > > > away
> > > > > > > > > > > tons of
> > > > > > > > > > > data.
> > > > > > > > > > > The point is to preserve appearance, and the
> > > > > > > > > > > Jabier's
> > > > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > function
> > > > > > > > > > > does this
> > > > > > > > > > > much much better.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, that is a good explanation. However the
> > > > > > > > > > > wording
> > > > > > > > > > > "stroke to
> > > > > > > > > > > path"
> > > > > > > > > > > isn't that clear to me.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Now that I understand what is going on I think
> > > > > > > > > > > "deconstruct" is
> > > > > > > > > > > actually a
> > > > > > > > > > > quite good albeit little techy word for the
> > > > > > > > > > > operation.
> > > > > > > > > > > "Decompose"?
> > > > > > > > > > > "Path to
> > > > > > > > > > > fills"?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The end result is a bunch of filled paths, and
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > input is
> > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > exactly? I
> > > > > > > > > > > think "X to Y" is a good but then the X and the Y
> > > > > > > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > > > closer
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > the operation is actually doing ;)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My 2p.
> > > > > > > > > > > -C
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Olof Bjarnason
> > > > > > > > > > > <olof.bjarna
> > > > > > > > > > > son@...3387...
> > > > > > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Is there any image giving an example of what the
> > > > > > > > > > > command
> > > > > > > > > > > does...?
> > > > > > > > > > > Like
> > > > > > > > > > > before/after with arrows and descriptive text?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It's kind of hard to understand what is happening
> > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > brief
> > > > > > > > > > > description at the top of that thread...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Mvh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > /Olof
> > > > > > > > > > > -----------------
> > > > > > > > > > > Är du systemutvecklare?
> > > > > > > > > > > Spana in https://cilamp.se
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7 May 2016 at 09:53, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz
> > > > > > > > > > > <jabier.arr
> > > > > > > > > > > aiza@...3285...
> > > > > > > > > > > ke
> > > > > > > > > > > r.es>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi to all UI power!
> > > > > > > > > > > I Just to know a name for the patch https://bugs.
> > > > > > > > > > > laun
> > > > > > > > > > > ch
> > > > > > > > > > > pad.
> > > > > > > > > > > net/inks
> > > > > > > > > > > ca
> > > > > > > > > > > pe
> > > > > > > > > > > /+bug/1556592
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > See the ScislaC proposal on #5
> > > > > > > > > > > Bryce like "Deconstruct object", me too.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Is ok the name? Another one?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > > > >
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