On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:21:18 -0300 "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> wrote:
On 8/30/07, jiho <jo.irisson@...400...> wrote:
On 2007-August-30 , at 04:32 , bulia byak wrote:
Thanks for the feedback,
- When in the dock, each dialog has an Iconify button, which is
good. But the icon of that button is difficult to guess. Can we change it?
In addition it's the same icon that the configure menu for gimp's dialogs. So i personally expected a menu to open when clicking on it. Maybe just an arrow in the other direction (since it's where the dialog will be docked)?
Agreed
Done.
- I think there's a little too many states of a dialog: it can be
(1) expanded in a dock, (2) squeezed into a horizontal bar in the dock
how can this be done? I can't find how to do this. when I hide it it just disappears (I have r15930 maybe you already did what bulia suggested).
I think horizontal bars start to appear when you open more dialogs than fits in the dock
That's true, but you can also choose to dock any dialog this way, on "top" of another, by dragging and dropping it at the middle of the other one. GDL allows this arrangement to be displayed as notebook with buttons or tabs (http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Inkscape_dock2.png).
Having used the dockable interface for quite some time I now find myself arranging dialogs this way all the time (though I agree it can be confusing at first).
What it provides is a way creating groups of dialogs taking up minimum space in the dock. I often have two groups in the dock consisting of two or three dialogs each (I seldom use more than half a dozen dialogs during one session). Then I can easily switch between the dialogs (bringing the one, or the two I'm currently interested in to front) using only the keyboard. It's very predictable where the dialog will turn up as it keeps its place, and I tend to learn instinctively where each dialog is (i.e. in the top or the bottom half of the dock).
Iconified dialogs, as opposed to this kind of grouping, has the drawback that you have to make room on the dock for an iconified dialog you want to display. This can't be done using only the keyboard. An "Iconify all" bound to a shortcut would be a workaround, but might hide dialogs in the dock you still want to show.
That said, it would be easy for me prevent dialogs from being arranged in this mode all together (it's a just one line code change), but personally I'd like to at least keep it as an option. How about preventing them from being automatically arranged as groups when the dock is full, but still allow them to be arranged manually?
wasn't there something in gnome HIG against "vertical tabs" like this. KDE uses them extensively and I quite agree that this clutters the interfaces and is not really usable. I think docking it to a single icon would be enough for usability and better for our necks (even it I know what the dialog is, I always tend to bend my head and try reading the text, don't you?).
You still have the icon, and icon with text is better than just icon so long as it does not take too much space - and these take minimum space thanks to their verticality. So I see no problem with these "vertical icons".
What's the policy on adding "hidden" preferences for things like this? (I noticed that we already have a hidden "icononly" option for the toolbox.)
-- Gustav