Can we not just make it all private rather than delete it? Is keep it all where it is but stop it being available for DL? On 2 Jun 2015 13:17, "Josh Andler" <scislac@...400...> wrote:
Ideally we want it all. It's good to have a clear historic view. At the least, I would personally like to see it go back to 0.44. That's just me, but I figure it's worth saying.
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:11 AM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
Status Update:
49,207 files have been downloaded. 100 downloads themselves and 49,107 per day stat json files going from the original upload date until yesterday.
The rss feed only contained 100 items. I could expand it by grinding a few other rss feeds from specific directories, or we could settle for the 100 last uploaded files which go back to 0.48.2 (2011-08-14)
Is this enough or do we want more?
Martin,
On 2 June 2015 at 02:19, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
su_v and Adib,
I've got the project meta data already.
I've got all stats and files downloading to the webserver. I'm going to find a good place to put them.
No one need worry about the data being lost forever.
As for being scared by SF's wrapping. We can not let ourselves be harried by bullies and people who see no issue in abuse. This is why we must extract ourselves from them.
Martin,
On 2 June 2015 at 02:04, the Adib <theadib@...400...> wrote:
Hello Martin,
We should have a copy of the 2(two) last releases available for
download.
When I got stuck by a new bug then I tend to try with older versions.
...
S_uv mentioned a download statistics. Do we have that?
Regards, Adib.
Am Dienstag, 2. Juni 2015 schrieb su_v :
On 2015-05-31 23:59 (+0200), Martin Owens wrote:
Dear Developers,
Because of the thousands of downloads per week of old inkscape releases (mostly windows msi files) from the sourceforge account and because of our successful transition to using our own website with caching proxy fastly.
I will be deleting all files from the SourceForge files folder in
two
weeks time (June 14th). Please make sure you have any and all files you wish to back up, and any downloads you want to make available
for
your platform available on the website.
If there are any objections please raise them here and I won't go ahead with the proposed deletion.
It makes me sad to see such a large part of Inkscape's release history (not just the files, but also the timeline, the statistics etc.) completely purged so quickly (on short notice) and so easily (no alternatives).
I tend towards objecting the mentioned 'each on his/her own' method (grab them as long as you can) - this is about files going back as far as Feb 2004. IMvHO all files of past releases should be archived by
the
project itself, not by relying on individuals storing random (local) copies as "backups". Either way all original upload dates, and past download statistics (and the filters to access them) will be lost entirely once the files have been deleted from the project's 'files' folder at sf.net.
If SF continues its current track, I also wonder whether this action won't backfire later on - as in serving as perfect argument for SF to create their own “mirror” for Inkscape packages (based on http://sourceforge.net/mirror/ ), and to enable the "enhanced-installer-with-payload" wrapper for Windows and OS X
downloads
at will, without the project having any control over the download
links
and the files hosted in that “mirror”.
This cleanup is mostly to reduce our online search footprint, reduce confusion with users and prevent users getting hold of old, obsolete or buggy versions of inkscape. (I've mentioned this cleanup before, but I wanted to be more proactive and state that I'll do it and take responsibility)
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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