Ok, so just to try and summarize the responses, it sounds like most people think the CoC should remain as it is - mentioning that copyright violations are not permitted, but not going any further to define it.
That leaves the line between "fanart" and copyright quite subjective for moderators. And without any way to justify our actions, if it became necessary. I'm a big fan of transparency, if you didn't guess.
The reason this came up for me, is because someone recently reported an image as a copyright violation. Moderators did not remove the image, and left it in place in the gallery, on the grounds of being fanart. But I keep thinking, if the member who reported it could figure out how to contact someone, they're probably wondering why it wasn't removed. There's nothing in the CoC that we can point to, if we needed to justify it.
Anyway, getting back to summarizing, it sounds like it might be a good idea to have a contact form - either only for reporting copyright problems, or I'd like to see a contact form in general, which could take a copyright issue, or be used for other things as well.
It seems reasonable to me for moderators to handle these contacts, and then moderators could either forward the issue to whoever needs to handle it, or reply to the sender, indicating where they can find what they need.
Any other moderators have comments?
Martin, would it be difficult to create something like that, which feeds into the moderation system? Or is there some reason why you'd be opposed to such a thing? Or have a different idea?
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Ryan Gorley Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:53 AM To: C R ; Tobias Ellinghaus Cc: inkscape-devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] gallery moderation, fan art, and copyright
I'd agree with keeping it light on the legal explanation. Better to point elsewhere for that, frankly.
Right now when someone uploads a resource they have the option to select "No Permission". Is there any instance where we want people uploading items for which they have neither ownership or permission? That seems problematic and should either be removed or allowed with a clear warning of the potential consequences.
If we do nothing, the only recourse for a claimant to email the mysterious gandi-contact at sfconservancy.org found on the domain registration. Hopefully someone at SFC would see that and let us know, otherwise it would probably get pushed up the ladder to OSUOSL based upon the IP address, in which case they could just shut the server down to protect their own behinds. Having some means to lodge a complaint just mitigates that risk. A simple form with name, organization, address, phone, email, material hyperlink, and description, seems like it would put up too high of a barrier to be abused for support questions, but not be too much heartache for a legitimate claimant to complete.
Ryan Gorley @ Dijt
On 07/18/2017 10:02 AM, C R wrote:
I'd keep it light on the copyright wording and options as well. I agree with Martin, we don't really have the resources to handle copyright squabbles. If someone informs us of copyright material they own that's hosted on our site, writing a plain English request to us should be sufficient I think. Have we ever had that happen anyway? The more legal stuff we say the more questions we will get about it, and all of us are grasping in the dark, guessing on the issues with our own (c). To do this right, we would need lawyers. So I think let's not do it, and not make it sound at all like we do it at all.
On 18 Jul 2017 4:47 p.m., "Tobias Ellinghaus" <houz@...173...> wrote: Am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2017, 09:49:41 CEST schrieb Martin Owens:
On Tue, 2017-07-18 at 04:13 -0600, brynn wrote:
I think it has been noted in the past that it's hard to find a way to contact a webmaster or website representative. I know I've had more than one message sent to me via Inkscape Community (forum), because they couldn't find a way to contact the website.
As a counter point. As the webmaster I have to field support requests for Inkscape quite often already. As an individual, I'm not Inkscape's consumer support department and widening the contact link would lead to even more requests from well meaning but demanding users who I have to politely redirect to the community support links.
Thing is, even after looking for a few minutes I couldn't find any contact link on the website whatsoever. The menus at the top are where at least I would have expected some contact link but there is none.
Slightly off-topic: while clicking around the site I found the "inkscape-cvs" mailing list which is supposed to have SVN commit logs. It feels odd to see two VCSs being mentioend that are both not used any more.
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Best Regards, Martin Owens
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