Late reply but I am going to reply nonetheless
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, bulia byak wrote:
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:03:19 -0300 From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: inkscape-devel inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: New Inkscape Goals?
On 9/24/05, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> wrote:
I want a 500 word comparision to Adobe Illustrator and I want it yesterday.
Heh, I'm not keen on Illustrator, but I did exactly this for Xara X on our wiki, whereas you're on record saying (at bottom of that page) that my detailed list is useless :)
Please stop misrepresenting me. Missing the point again.
Comparing inkscape to other software is useful but I think it is more useful to compare it to commercial software with a large user base rather and see what might help bring Inkscape to the widest possible audience. Comparing to Xara has some benefit but it is a minor product which Corel lost interest in but still imitates many aspects of Corel software, and even Corel is far behind both Adobe and Macromedia in terms of market and overemphasising it (as you accuse me of over emphasing Adobe) threatens to marginalise Inkscape. If you are going to imitate, at least imitate the winnners not the also ran.
Also the point of the wiki was supposed to be what can be learned from Other Projects. It was not supposed to be a marketing exercise.
You chose to make the Xara X into a long winded subjective diatriabe about all the things you thought were great about Inkscape. If you are trying to create marketing material that might make sense and you should come straight out and say so (I think you did eventually) but comparative advertising is often seen to be in poor taste and counter productive when you could let Inkscape speak for itself. Let users be pleasantly surprised even impressed rather than underwhelmed when they decide it isn't the best illustration program ever. It doesn't matter if you think you are right if you set the user up for disappointment.
http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Xara_X
try. Do you want to put up with the consant abuse and comparisions to commerical products a certain well known Photo Manipulation program suffers?
Of course I want it. The more comparisons the better. Content-free rants I just ignore, they don't bother me. When there are any specific complaints, I learn from them.
Again you tragically miss the point. There is a lot to be learned from supposedly "content free" rants and it is a shame you are too arrogant to realise that there is usually a reason behind the rants. Even though the rant might not spell it out for you in simplistic enough terms chances are there are still problems just ones you are too stubborn to recognise.
We've all seen the traditional head in sand, developers know best, and it fails spectacularly and results in lots of users bitching and moaning and developers getting all high and mighty and feeling unappreciated. Stop and ask yourself why people are ranting and admit you would probably be better off if you could convince those people to calm down and provide you with useful feedback and maybe even start contributing in some way. Divert the river, you cannot ever completely block the flow no matter how big a damn of ignorance you try to build.
Like it or not the list reflects directly on Inkscape and ignoring
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org
Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/