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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Since release is nearing, let's talk 0.48 and beyond...
(Alexandre Prokoudine)
2. Re: Since release is nearing, let's talk 0.48 and beyond...
(Joshua A. Andler)
3. Re: *sigh* icons (Jon A. Cruz)
4. Re: *sigh* icons (Alexandre Prokoudine)
5. Re: Since release is nearing, let's talk 0.48 and beyond...
(Valerie)
6. Re: Does inkscape use windows GDI for printing? (Tobias Jakobs)
7. Re: *sigh* icons (Jon A. Cruz)
8. Re: Current TODO for 0.47 discussion (~suv)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:45:08 +0400
From: Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Since release is nearing, let's talk
0.48 and beyond...
To: Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
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On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
> The point releases have a place... we should have had a couple for 0.46
> honestly. If you would like to point fingers, I am willing to take the
> blame for it as I was a release warden for it and for this release.
No fingers, no blame. The long 0.46/0.47 development cycles got quite
a few important contributors burnt out. We need to learn to deal with
it, IMO.
> P.S. Move continents all you want Alexandre, I'll nag you wherever you
> go. ;)
That goes without saying :)
P.S. Thank you for posting 0.47 screenshots btw!
Alexandre
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:49:24 -0700
From: "Joshua A. Andler" <scislac@...400...>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Since release is nearing, let's talk
0.48 and beyond...
To: Krzysztof Kosi?ski <tweenk.pl@...400...>
Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, bulia byak
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On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 18:08 -0700, Krzysztof Kosi?ski wrote:
> I vote for bzr
Noted
> > Additionally, if we could get cairo work in a
> > branch (under said DVCS) during this cycle, it would be excellent to
> > possibly get something to drop in for the 0.49 dev cycle
> Is there any plan on how we're going to do this? Do we write a new C++
> library that is similar to libnr but nicer to work with and uses Cairo and
> 2Geom internally, or rip out rendering code from libnr and replace it with
> Cairo operations?
bulia, can you please comment on what you think would be the best course
of action given your experiments/testing? I know you've been going it
along in this department for quite a while which is why I proposed
getting a branch going... I'm sure others would love to help make it
happen.
Cheers,
Josh
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:01:19 -0700
From: "Jon A. Cruz" <jon@...2245......>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] *sigh* icons
To: Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>
Cc: Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
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On Sep 13, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Ted Gould wrote:
>
>> The icon specification provides for things like fall back icons and
>> for
>> icon themes providing their own set of fallbacks. So most icon
>> themes
>> that ship today are actually a base set, with a fallback to a more
>> complete set that is similar. Also, many applications ship with a
>> default set of icons that the theme can override. Sure, in those
>> cases
>> GIMP and Inkscape wouldn't match, but that's no worse than we have
>> today.
>
> But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default
> theme :)
>
No.
If external icons with the given names are present in the directory
set, then those will override the internal ones.
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:13:44 +0400
From: Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] *sigh* icons
To: Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
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On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
> But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default theme :)
>
>
> No.
> If external icons with the given names are present in the directory set,
> then those will override the internal ones.
OK, so what is the step-by-step tutorial to have Tango icons in Inkscape?
Alexandre
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:16:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Valerie <valerie_vk@...2246....>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Since release is nearing, let's talk
0.48 and beyond...
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On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 23:09 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 23:16 -0700, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
> > One thing that Debian is considering is fixed dates for freezes.?
> > So they'd do a freeze on a fixed schedule, and then
> > release when it's ready.?I'm curious if this might work for us
> > long term, certainly with a DVCS we'd have more flexibility there.
>
> Interesting approach... I think that this may work for us
> too after 0.49 since it may be a little unpredictable with
> the library changes.
It'd probably be a good idea after 0.49, yes, after major tasks such
as library change is complete.
Open source projects often push back the release date so that
they can stabilize all the features they have added during
the development cycle (and even then, some don't make it on time
anyway).
To the user, the choice is pretty simple though:
- In 6 months, you get to access Feature A, and 6 months after
that, you get to access Feature B, or:
- You get to access Features A and B in 1 year.
Those 6 months with "just" Feature A isn't pointless,
it may mean hours of work saved, or that the user could accomplish
things that he couldn't have otherwise. For some users, the
absence of a crucial feature can be just as crippling as a bug.
Good thing for the Development version, though that's not a
solution for everybody.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:20:34 +0200
From: Tobias Jakobs <tobias.jakobs@...1439...>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Does inkscape use windows GDI for
printing?
To: Ashmi Shah <ashmi@...2243...>
Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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Hi,
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 14:24, Ashmi Shah <ashmi@...2243...> wrote:
...
> - System 7 32 bit
> - System 7 64 bit
Just a small note. System 7 is the name of the old MacOS and Inkscape
doesn't run on System 7:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_7
Regards,
Tobias
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:20:50 -0700
From: "Jon A. Cruz" <jon@...2245......>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] *sigh* icons
To: Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>
Cc: Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
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On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
>
>> But what we have *today* is Inkscape *always* using its default
>> theme :)
>>
>>
>> No.
>> If external icons with the given names are present in the directory
>> set,
>> then those will override the internal ones.
>
> OK, so what is the step-by-step tutorial to have Tango icons in
> Inkscape?
Well.. the old way of copying over the proper .svg will work. There
are a few other ways too. Once a few things get settled down I'll go
thoug the mailing list to re-read what was discussed previously.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:43:09 +0200
From: ~suv <suv-sf@...58...>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Current TODO for 0.47 discussion
To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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On 14/9/09 08:05, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 10:59 +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
>> 2. Fix to bug 167472 save as dialogue, duplicate 'Compressed Inkscape
>> SVG' entry
>>
>> ~suv notes that that both svgz_output.inx and svgz_input.inx in
>> share/extensions are redundant. They have been replaced by internal
>> extensions (src/extensions/internal/svgz.h and svgz.cpp). He's tested
>> their removal on OS X Leopard.
>
> I thought there were some people having issues with the internal ones.
> If that's not the case I believe they should be removed. Can someone
> test these two across the various platforms so that we know which is
> best?
Both svgz_input.inx and svgz_output.inx in its current form fail
(confirmed for svgz_output.inx on Ubuntu, XP and OS X in bug #167472)
with the error
> Can't Spawn!!! spawn returns: 8
i.e. support for
<command reldir="path">somecommand -with -arguments</command>
seems broken or removed in current SVN builds
~suv (aka V aka V?ronique ;-)
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