Alan: just one line to tell you I love the way you reason your decissions. yours: Néstor Díaz
El Jueves, 24 de Junio de 2004 20:12, Alan Horkan escribió:
[moved from Clipart back to Inkscape]
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Jon Phillips wrote:
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:47:18 -0700 From: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> To: Andrew Fitzsimon <andrew@...420...> Cc: clipart-list <clipart@...330...> Subject: Re: [Clipart] new inkscape dialogs
These are rocking man!!! I can't wait until they are fully implemented. It would be great if they could be ready by AUGUST so that I can present them at a couple of conferences and in time for OSCON2004!
It will be great to show the linkages between metadata in OCAL and in Inkscape directly!!! You are cool!!!
Jon
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 23:14, Andrew Fitzsimon wrote:
Hi guys, just a few mockups comming from inkscape.
bryce mentioned you'd like to see them
http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/obman/obman2.png http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/obman/docset.png http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/obman/docset2.png
I realise these dialogs fit in with Inkscapes current design, the are clear compact and well arranged but I think it is important to consider integration with Gnome.
The way I see it Sodipodi tried to make all dialogs as small and as compact as possible, and for non-modal dialogs that are expected to be left permantly open this makes sense. (Other graphics applications refer to these types of Dialogs as Palettes, and I try to do so too). I can understand that the Object Manager is probably something you would want to leave open.
These should be considered distinct and seperate from Transient dialogs (modal or non-modal, it doesn't matter) that are not intended to be left open. Transient dialogs are not under the same space constraints. As far as I know the Inkscape developers do want to follow the Gnome Human Interface Guidelines (mostly), so I hope I'm not out of line asking for a more standard layout.
The Document settings (document properties?) seems more like the latter type of transient Dialog. The reason I bring this up at all is that I immediatly wondered where the Cancel, OK buttons were. By positioning the "clear" button on the bottom right where the action/OK button usually is I expect some users will absent mindedly clear the data they just typed in when in fact they wanted to dismiss the dialog not clear the information. I believe that the Reset button and Icon the GIMP uses is a stock item, using it instead might help. The abbreviation "Info" should not be used, abbreviations make English harder to understand for non-native speakers and even native speakers will need to take an extra fraction of a second to mentally unscramble it. Anyway from an Internationalisation point of view there needs to be enough space in the user interface to accomodate other languages that are more verbose, so there is no advantage to be gained by the abbreviation. (You might also consider putting the Custom name,value pairs into a seperate tab as it would provide much more room as there could potentially be many other bits of metadata. Offhand I can think of Date, Copyright (which includes licensing), keywords, being needed for OpenClipart.org content). The item "Insert OpenClipart.org RDF" is very specific and could be confusing to new users who have discovered Inkscape through their Linux distribution, perhaps this could be changed to insert metadata from file/template and one of those templates would be the OpenClipart.org metadata?
I am not suggesting you redo these dialogs now but I hope you will take on these suggestions and incorporate them whenever you next need to revise the dialog.
Hope that helps.
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
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