Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover things
like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut that bit out.
Hhmm.....yes, I see what you mean. My interpretation of that, is for things like extensions, filters, or maybe even tutorials. Maybe there's a better way to say it?
What about "created to be installed in Inkscape" ? That would eliminate any kind of image. Any other suggestions out there? Eduard?
If there's a significant amount of undesirable content currently, it's
probably best to make it retroactive. If it's just a few things, then we should approach the owners about it. Not to be pushy, but to inform them of the new policy.
To me, it's a significant amount. Probably 1 or 2 thumbnails per page of the gallery are random photos! Just to help test the moderation features, I went to the last pages of the gallery and flagged 6 or 8 random photos, and that was over the last 6 pages of the gallery.
So that's way too many to consider trying to contact them. Especially since in every case, that was the only thing they uploaded, just one random (well, random to us) photo.
You know, since the mail system is currently down, if we deleted them right now (or in the next few weeks) they'd probably never know. Under this scenario, I would delete them. A little devious? Yes. Not "straight up"? Yes. Wrong? Mmmm....not sure. It's like a "little white lie" as they say.
But if they were going to be notified about it, I would skip it. Because it would clearly not be fair to delete them, when the rules were not posted when they uploaded.
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: C R Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 1:13 PM To: brynn Cc: Martin Owens ; Ken Moffat ; inkscape-devel ; Eduard Braun Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website moderation policy
Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover things like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut that bit out.
The rest is fine to my eyes. Nice work!
If there's a significant amount of undesirable content currently, it's probably best to make it retroactive. If it's just a few things, then we should approach the owners about it. Not to be pushy, but to inform them of the new policy.
-C
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 8:02 PM, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Hi Everyone, I just want to follow up and try to close this issue, so the once the moderation features are officially online, we have our guidelines to follow. (They're officially online for blatant things, but not sure about for everything.)
1 -- I thought the following suggestion from Eduard really does cover everything I was thinking. Does anyone have any objections to editing the CoC as follows (https://inkscape.org/en/community/coc/) :
"Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere to the following rules:"
with:
"Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. created with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with Inkscape, etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem appropriate or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:"
If no objections, I'd like to edit the CoC as above.
2 -- Should these changes be retroactive, or not? I'm thinking not, but I could go either way.
I don't think it needs to be written into the CoC about being retroactive or not. But I'm not sure. Anyone else have a thought or opinion?
Thank you very much, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: brynn Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:49 PM To: Martin Owens ; Ken Moffat ; inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net ; Eduard Braun
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website moderation policy
Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g.
created with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with Inkscape, etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem appropriate or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules: [...]
I like that very much!
I'd propose having that to replace:
"Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere to the following rules:"
Anyone else, other thoughts?
Thanks again, brynn
PS - cross posting into Docs list, to make sure the whole website team sees it.
-----Original Message----- From: Eduard Braun Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:31 AM To: Martin Owens ; brynn ; Ken Moffat ; inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website moderation policy
Am 24.04.2017 um 12:02 schrieb Martin Owens:
On Mon, 2017-04-24 at 03:52 -0600, brynn wrote:
But it's more because this would be a change in policy, that it needs to be discussed. And before we can start using the new moderation features, and deleting random type of photos, it must be stated in the CoC.
Or maybe there should be a whole separate policy on website content? Does anyone have any comments on that?
It's really a use policy, but we've sandwhiched it into the code of conduct for brevity:
https://inkscape.org/en/community/coc/
It could be it's own document like the privacy policy though if we had enough of it:
https://inkscape.org/en/about/privacy/
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Why not just add (as the first point or general description) of the section "Guidelines for user-submitted content" some rather general note along the lines of: Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. created with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with Inkscape, etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem appropriate or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules: [...]
This way we can continue to accept high quality content (even if it's not directly related to Inkscape and would fail stricter guidelines) and have the possibility to grandfather in some already uploaded file while always having the possibility to reject content that is unfit for inclusion.
Regards, Eduard
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