Thanks for your comments, Ken.
I'm actually puzzled that you moderators disagreed about this, you
all sound very sensible and focussed people. That makes me think I'm missing something.
I probably misstated that. Martin did not want to discuss policy, because he's wearing his developer hat (website developer). And Maren thought the larger community should be involved in deciding these things.
It felt to me like we might disagree, because so far, I've been on my own in asking these questions, and wanting to see a change, now that the moderation features are almost ready to install.
But it's more because this would be a change in policy, that it needs to be discussed. And before we can start using the new moderation features, and deleting random type of photos, it must be stated in the CoC.
Or maybe there should be a whole separate policy on website content? Does anyone have any comments on that?
Thanks again, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Ken Moffat Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:29 PM To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website moderation policy
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 07:25:32PM -0600, brynn wrote:
Hi Friends, I've been helping to test some new moderation features which Martin has been working on (and Maren helping too), for the website. We have realized that (A) we might have different opinions about what the moderation policies should be, and (B) the current CoC might not cover them. But we all agree that the larger community should be involved, if the CoC needs to be edited.
Hi brynn,
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In my opinion, resources uploaded to the website should bear somerelation to Inkscape. Or more specifically, those which have no relation to Inkscape should not be allowed. Here's what I propose:
Images should be made in whole or in part with Inkscape, or depict how Inkscape was utilized in user projects (such as a photo of a t-shirt which design was made with Inkscape).
That's not my call (I can't even persuade my colleagues on the "distro" I support that inkscape should be built with cmake when ./autogen.sh still works), but it certainly sounds reasonable.
Any other images need to have some relation to Inkscape, the Inkscape Project (website, forums, hackfest), vector graphics, or marginally, FOSS. (maybe not FOSS?)
Again, not for me to bike-shed about where the boundary should be, but FOSS as distinct from inkscape or svg sounds a very marginal use of the project's resources.
This would exclude images like these:
https://inkscape.org/en/~stacymcgraw@...1081.../%E2%98%85img-0616 https://inkscape.org/en/~KarenFechter/%E2%98%8520160319-150913+1 https://inkscape.org/en/~lgimenezborges/%E2%98%85vklsd https://inkscape.org/en/~Astro.C/%E2%98%85three-musketeers https://inkscape.org/en/~richardkwok0128/%E2%98%85testing+0
I can't see the second link (suppressed by moderators, I think it said, with a no-entry road-sign which might have been created in inkscape), but AFAICS the others have no relationship to inkscape unless any of the people in the photos are contributors:-).
The reason I feel this way, is because there must be hundreds, if not thousands of galleries on the internet, where people can upload any kind of random photo. Why should the Inkscape website waste its resources hosting images which weren't made with Inkscape and have nothing to do with it? If the Inkscape website is going to the trouble of creating and maintaining a gallery, it ought to promote Inkscape, vector graphics, and maybe FOSS, almost, if not completely exclusively. My opinion of course ;-)
There are even *free* galleries for people to upload to (free level at flickr (yahoo) if people can't afford webspace. The thing is that webspace essentially costs money (space, bandwidth) so projects should think carefully before encouraging its use for non-obvious things.
So I propose the following, or something like it, should be the firstitem in the list of Guidelines for User Submitted Content. No doubt it could be worded better.
-- Images must be created using Inkscape, in whole or in part; or depict how Inkscape was utilized for the user's project (such as a photo of a t-shirt which design was created using Inkscape). Or otherwise the image or resource must bear some relation to Inkscape, the Inkscape Project, vector graphics (or FOSS??)
Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions on this?Thank you very much, brynn
I'm actually puzzled that you moderators disagreed about this, you all sound very sensible and focussed people. That makes me think I'm missing something. But as I said, my opinions should count for nothing here, so please don't let me sway you - I'm only a very occasional user who sometimes tries to build inkscape and give it trivial usability-tests.
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