On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, David Christian Berg wrote:
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:35:34 +0200 From: David Christian Berg <david@...407...> To: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> Cc: Inkscape ML inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] apply transformation
On So, 2004-10-17 at 07:21 -0300, bulia byak wrote:
What is the status on this, and what do you guys think?
I think that we've spent an enormous amount of effort to make the gradients and their transforms work properly per SVG spec _and_ behave sanely when edited. This "and" is a big deal, it's very hard to have both at the same time. So the idea to break it all again in order to work around a broken renderer does not excite me. What about fixing librsvg instead?
wowowow nobody says you're supposed to break the way it works right now. and you're right, fixing librsvg is the better way to go, but you guys are just a lot faster in fixing stuff :D But look a it from another perspective: applying transformations will also decrease the size of the svg.
This is a useful feature, but only for a minority of people. The trick will be provding it in a way that doesn't bother most ordinary users who wont need it.
While most people would want to have the orginal object + transforms there are times when you would want just an object with new coordinates.
When creating clipart I meticulously specified things by coordinates because I wanted the end results not all the matrix transformations in between.
I definately recall someone suggesting a workaround (possibly invovling groups) that allowed one to change things so that the transformations disappeared and you got the actual coordinates instead. Hopefully whomever it was will tell us again, I cannot seem to find a copy of the message although I thought I saved it.
I'd also recommend upgrading your copy of librsvg as it is a moving target and the problems you are having with it may already be fixed but are probably at least known to the developers.
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
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