Yeah, sorry guys, my bad. I sent that message before I had downloaded new messages this morning. If I had waited, I would have seen where he had already saved them.
Thanks Martin! Should anyone be asking about them, where can we find them?
Thanks :-)
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Maren Hachmann" <maren@...3165...> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:23 AM To: "Inkscape Devel List" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Decommission SourceForge Downloads
Hi Brynn,
Don't worry, Martin did not only back up the files, but also all statistics about them, including even the download statistics. Someone (I think Martin, too) will also take care of the mailing list archives, this was said many mails earlier in another thread. The info won't be lost, but it may take a little time for it to be easily accessible. The only thing that doesn't seem to be solved yet is the account-overtaking thing. I trust we'll come up with a good solution for that, too.
Regards, Maren
Am 03.06.2015 um 07:40 schrieb Brynn:
Hi Friends, While I don't have much to do with programming and development, and don't have much need to save old files, I think keeping some sort of history of Inkscape's development should be important for the community of any project of Inkscape's caliber. Unfortunately, since I don't have have any kind of training or experience with keeping the history (or archive or library), of any organization or community (whether proprietary or open source), I can't offer any ideas. But I agree with ~suv that something important will be lost on June 14, unless we can come up with some way to retain this historical info. (And I also agree, having just come across this article the other day: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp..., that leaving them unattended on SF is NOT a good idea.) Given my lack of experience with this sort of thing, the only thing I can think of, would be finding place to keep the files (where they won't be "adopted" by SF) and writing some sort of text document, that includes the dates they were originally uploaded, which also links to those files, wherever they end up being stored. That's probably quite a naive thought, but the best I can think of. It's simple enough that I could do it, and I would volunteer to write such a document, if that's the only way. But there probably is a much better way, that I'm just not aware of.
All best, brynn
From: "su_v" <suv-sf@...58...> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:10 PM To: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Decommission SourceForge Downloads
On 2015-05-31 23:59 (+0200), Martin Owens wrote:
Dear Developers,
Because of the thousands of downloads per week of old inkscape releases (mostly windows msi files) from the sourceforge account and because of our successful transition to using our own website with caching proxy fastly.
I will be deleting all files from the SourceForge files folder in two weeks time (June 14th). Please make sure you have any and all files you wish to back up, and any downloads you want to make available for your platform available on the website.
If there are any objections please raise them here and I won't go ahead with the proposed deletion.
It makes me sad to see such a large part of Inkscape's release history (not just the files, but also the timeline, the statistics etc.) completely purged so quickly (on short notice) and so easily (no alternatives).
I tend towards objecting the mentioned 'each on his/her own' method (grab them as long as you can) - this is about files going back as far as Feb 2004. IMvHO all files of past releases should be archived by the project itself, not by relying on individuals storing random (local) copies as "backups". Either way all original upload dates, and past download statistics (and the filters to access them) will be lost entirely once the files have been deleted from the project's 'files' folder at sf.net.
If SF continues its current track, I also wonder whether this action won't backfire later on - as in serving as perfect argument for SF to create their own “mirror” for Inkscape packages (based on http://sourceforge.net/mirror/ ), and to enable the "enhanced-installer-with-payload" wrapper for Windows and OS X downloads at will, without the project having any control over the download links and the files hosted in that “mirror”.
This cleanup is mostly to reduce our online search footprint, reduce confusion with users and prevent users getting hold of old, obsolete or buggy versions of inkscape. (I've mentioned this cleanup before, but I wanted to be more proactive and state that I'll do it and take responsibility)
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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