Going to take a hard look at this this weekend. I've read the suggested reading and this thread over a few times, and it seems we all agree on these things:
1. Future shifts in the value of "px" should not affect scaling of previous templates (inkscape should handle any necessary updates automatically, and without the user knowing anything is happening). 2. User should be able to choose units they want to work in and Inkscape should do whatever is necessary to adapt the document to a workflow that supports the chosen units. 3. Inkscape should offer the best options without complicating things. One was to solve this is to put advanced options should be hidden under "advanced" with some sort of warning that changing the values may make the document size wrong for the intended output.
Is this correct?
I'm going o list all the use cases I can think of with workflows and see if I can get to something that works well for all of them with minimal faff.
-C
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Ivan Louette via Inkscape-devel inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
Perhaps a fix to the filters scaling issue could be to add a "svg filters working scale control" to the filters dialog and set it by default to an amount which matches their previous scaling.
ivan
Le lundi 25 septembre 2017 à 00:04:46 UTC+2, Ivan Louette via Inkscape-devel inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net a écrit :
There is also another issue which wasn't solved with svg filters. See bug #1429591. At one time after 0.91 they became to work very differently (particularly those who contains blur and turbulence) because they were designed at a smaller scaling than the new one. The only workaround I found was changing document properties/scaling to 3,7795 before designing anything inside the document or creating and use a template with this setting.
On the other hand I was somewhat disappointed to see that in recent years nobody seems to be interested by the svg filters area in Inkscape. The work we did Nicolas Dufour and I several years ago didn't receive any return, positive nor negative. Most bugs weren't fixed and the Filters dialog has even became a mess despite several UI proposals.
ivan
Le dimanche 24 septembre 2017 à 18:32:59 UTC+2, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> a écrit :
On Sun, 2017-09-24 at 13:53 +0200, Eduard Braun wrote:
Marc, you're not telling me anything new here... The point is: It can be confusing if you are *not* aware of the details!
Do you want to give a "Tour of Inkscape" to every new user in order to help them with questions that might arise due to bad UI?
I think what Eduard is saying is that the user interface is currently insufficient to self-contain the functionality that we have set up.
Requiring excessive external support is an indication that we might have to reconsider the design. Even if the reconsideration requires us to think deeper about the problem.
Martin,
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