I'll put forward that we meet at either 13:00 or 20:00 GMT on the Tuesday 6/20 on either IRC Freenode #inkscape-devel channel or https://meet.jit.si/inkscape. 

I'm open to alternative times. If we need to we could have an asynchronous meeting on the forum as well.


Ryan Gorley @ Dijt

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 03:29:35AM -0600, brynn wrote:
> I'm also of the opinion that many users feel ignored.  Even though Inkscape
> is provided to them for free, many people like to feel some kind of
> ownership, or partnership (can't think of the right word that I want to use
> here).  They want to feel like they have a stake in the program or project.
> For 2 or 3 years now, I've been trying to keep forums "in the loop".  But
> not being a social media participant, I can't do much there.
>
> In any case, I'm glad that you want to step in and help in this way.  I've
> saved your address, so that whenever Bryce is ready to extend invitations
> again, for starting the advocacy group, you'll get the message.

If people are interested in getting organized now, that's really the
only piece that's been missing.  And I've noticed some interest in
outreach efforts bubbling stronger lately, so maybe the time's ripe?  I
was thinking a get together type meeting would be a fun way to kick
things off, and just get to know everyone; if that sounds like it'd be
useful why don't you guys suggest a place and time?

I don't have fixed ideas for what the group would do, but it's been very
evident that we have some deep needs in this department, and Inkscape
needs an official team chartered to address them.

> It will be AWESOME to get this group going!

You guys should also decide what you want to call yourselves.  We've
kicked around "marketing", "advocacy", "outreach", and more, but I
figure it would be a good decision for the team to make for itself.

> Did you see Bryce's message listing all the people who are involved with the
> various outlets?  It's just a few messages above this one, in my inbox (if
> that helps you to find it).  It was sent to the list, without any specific
> people addressed.  (So maybe is somewhere else in your inbox?)
>
> I think probably you can find the email addresses for all of them, in this
> devel list.  Here's the archives, in case some of them haven't posted since
> you joined.  You can get their addresses from there:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/inkscape-devel/

Robert mentioned he's also working on assembling a list of outlets.

There may be interest to tap in adding more; on the facebook group today
someone asked about an official youtube channel.  I'm sure there's no
shortage of great ideas, as Brynn said the trick will be recruiting and
building a solid team and nailing down some solid plans.

Bryce

> All best,
> brynn
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sterbal
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 8:26 PM
> To: Ryan Gorley ; robert@...3563.....
> Cc: brynn ; Martin Owens ; Inkscape Devel List
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Social Media Management
>
>
>
> My sense is that users feel left out of the community. What is helpful is to
> reach out to them, natively to the platforms they are on. Twitter, Facebook
> and Google have very different voices. Putting out some content on a regular
> basis and measuring engagement is a good step for any project.
>
> Again, all the references to actually projects are somewhat vague. Who works
> with Facebook? How do I contact them?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Robert Sterbal
> robert@...3541...
> 412-977-3526 call/text
>
> On 6/12/2017 1:33 PM, Ryan Gorley wrote:
>
> Facebook is probably the easiest platform to have Robert contribute to,
> since you just need to make him an editor to the page. Through TweetDeck we
> can accomplish essentially the same thing with Twitter through account
> contributors, though it is going to require a little setup (no cost) from
> someone with the admin login. Google allows for editors on pages, like
> Facebook does (I haven't tried on a community yet, but I'm sure it is
> essentially the same). LinkedIn and DeviantArt probably need to be addressed
> a little differently, and can be a topic for a different discussion.
>
> Is the facilitation of contributors to the social platforms and the creation
> of a messaging strategy a good first task for the yet-to-be-created Inkscape
> marketing team?
>
>
>
> Ryan Gorley @ Dijt
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:24 AM, Robert Sterbal <rsterbal@...714...> wrote:
> That would be fine.
>
> This project has great resources and helping people find them would be the
> main focus of the effort right now.
>
> I'd be happy to help with the project.
>
> Please note that it is not recommended practice in social media for only one
> person to know the login credentials of any single social media  presence.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Sterbal
> robert@...3541...
> 412-977-3526 call/text
>
>
> On 6/12/2017 4:23 AM, brynn wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>       I don't use social media myself.  But I certainly recognize the value
> to a project like this.  I have the impression, from the posts we get now
> and then (in both forums and mailing lists), that there doesn't seem to be
> anyone participating on a daily  (or even just regular) basis, making sure
> connections get made, questions answered, rumors squashed, etc.  I think one
> person holds the accounts (as Martin mentioned), but doesn't have time for
> the day to day management.
>
>       I do know there is (at least) one FB group which has been fairly
> active lately, holding drawing contests or challenges.  I could look up a
> link to it, if you need it.  Although you probably already know about it.
>
>       One thing that's in the plans, is an advocacy group or team, which
> would make sure all the various necessary announcements get made, through
> all the project's web outlets. And as well, it would probably manage some
> outreach or "marketing" plans (in quotes, since there's no "buying or
> selling").
>
>       I'm hoping we can get that going as soon as the activity after
> hackfest calms down.  Would you be interested in being on that team?  Or
> even if you could just be the team's contact person for social media, it
> would be a big help.  I can't say for sure, since we haven't organized yet,
> but probably the team would create small announcements, and send them to you
> to post.
>
>       Thanks for your offer to help! Let us know if you're interested in the
> advocacy group, and at what level  :-)
>
> All best,
> brynn
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sterbal
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:59 PM
> To: Martin Owens ; robert@...3564...... ; Inkscape-devel@...1784...sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Social Media Management
>
> My main expertise is in Facebook groups. I co-admin a group with 19,000
> people about a TV show. I moderate a group for an iOS developer with
> about 70 people in it. I've used social media since the 1990s and I
> really enjoy connecting users to each other and to relevant resources
> about their interests.
>
> I'd be happy to help organize your efforts. I'm a big fan of documenting
> resources.
>
> Thanks for your reply,
>
> Robert Sterbal
> robert@...3541...
> 412-977-3526 call/text
>
> On 6/11/2017 11:13 PM, Martin Owens wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> It's great to hear from you and your help with social media.
>
> Our working document for tracking project resources is here:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kilt4tm1KDCNysd5oy5M5wJnCCS45fq
> a7VIoEyBl090/edit#gid=0
>
> The social media list as you can see is a bit all over the
> place. scislac has the most keys, but I'm hoping we can get more people
> involved and get a process for news propergation and the reverse (from
> social media to project)
>
> Which parts are you most interested in helping with? Are you interested
> in working with me to make sure we have project wide admin access to
> these accounts?
>
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
>
> On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 22:32 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote:
> I'm interested in helping with the social media management of the
> project.
> I didn't see who to contact to help with social media on this link: h
> ttps://inkscape.org/en/contribute/to-do-list/
> Who do I ask, and how do I contact them?
> Thanks,
> Robert Sterbal
> robert@...3541...
> 412-977-3526 call/text
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