On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, bulia byak wrote:
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:03:14 -0300 From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: inkscape-devel inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Lorem ipsum extension
On 9/4/06, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> wrote:
"Lorem ipsum" is a clever name but almost too clever. (Excellent idea though and it is alwasy great to see people creating more effects and extensions already.) Although "Lorem ipsum" it is an expression probably well known to typesetters it is not exactly self explanitory for the average beginner.
Perhaps, but would a beginner need it at all? Usually designers use it for mock-ups to show to clients.
Beginners might want to fill a space in with sample text and write the proper text later same as anyone else. There is no sense being deliberately obscure if someone can suggest a better lable. Right now I cannot suggest a better more immediately obvious lable but I know if I do not mention things now it will be much more difficult to change it later.
I changed its name to "Lorem ipsum", moved it to the Render submenu
Why Render? It is creating a block of real text as opposed to rendering a path or other shape isn't it?
Render here has a general meaning of "create", as in, create some object which didn't exist before. Perhaps the submenu should be renamed to just "Create".
Create seems too general. Render seems fairly appropriate for Grid and I'd be tempted to throw pattern generators in there too.
Maybe a submenu "Effects, Text" or something general like that?
Yes, when we have more extensions for text, we can add a new submenu for them.
I dont mind deferring this until later so long as reorganisation is part of the plan.
One of the menu feature requests listed in the tracker was "Ungroup All" something which could presumably be quite easily written as an extension
No, implementing this correctly requires quite a lot of transform math, and this is something only Inkscape core can do effectively.
Even a bad implementation could be useful but thinking about it further needing to unlink clones and other thing would probably complicate matters.
Speaking of transforms many scripts will want to use basic operations like scale and transform so basic scripts that do just one thing, even things already provided for by inkscape would provide useful building blocks for beginners. (I learned gimp scripting by writing really simple scripts that did little more than hello world and then moved up to slightly more complicated scipts, which still didn't do all that much).
Sincerely
Alan Horkan
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