Hi all,
as for the bug reporting, I think that reading was a misinterpretation of the intended meaning of the text we're talking about.
The bug report page (besides in detail explaining how to make a good bug report, and where to post it) explains that when you're not sure if something is a bug or not (or when you don't have the experience with Inkscape to be able to tell), then you can describe the problem on the mailing list or in the chat first, to get help and feedback. The decision which way to try first is the user's.
This is because else, we'd get a number of bug reports about things that are not bugs, but actually support requests.
Discussion doesn't exclude making a report later, if it turns out to be something that needs work on the code.
See https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/ , last section.
I'd be grateful for help with better phrasing, or even with a better guide for new contributors.
Windell, I'd really like to hear about the stumbling blocks that you encountered. That's going to be very helpful to know and maybe find ways to 'fix' and improve.
For the concrete case: maybe adding a 'first' somewhere into that text would already be enough to clarify that discussion is in *some* cases recommended *before* making a report / feature request?
Ben, what do you think? Would that have helped to not be surprised by the request to report your findings after discussing them?
Maren
Am 19.11.19 um 01:36 schrieb Windell H. Oskay:
On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:58 PM, C R cajhne@gmail.com wrote:
No document window open and just a bar at the top? That's just awful UX imho.
Terrible UX. Fight me. lol
You are I are entitled to opinions about whether or not it's a good UX, but that *is* the standard of how Mac applications have worked since 1984.
Putting that on Ben, or me, is not appropriate. (Asking for a fight, even jokingly, even less so.)
Also, I don't get the attitude "you're all just lazy" and then refusing to fill out a bug report so we can action it.
I don't like it either, but I think that I do understand where it's coming from. We, the Inkscape community, have a bad habit of telling users to report or contribute something one way, and then when they do exactly as we've asked, we ask them to do it a different way.*
That exact same thing has happened to me several times, and it can be *extremely* frustrating, especially for someone new in a community. People lash out when they're frustrated.
Someone want to add an issue for it on behalf of the OP, then I'll upvote it.
I already did: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/1193 Your upvote would be appreciated.
Now-- For everyone's sake: Let's please move any further discussion of this particular UX issue _there_ and off this mailing list.
*I'm totally up for discussions about how to be genuinely more welcoming to new contributors. _______________________________________________ Inkscape Devel mailing list -- inkscape-devel@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-devel-leave@lists.inkscape.org