Thanks!
It would also have been nice to be able to change multiple swatches at the same time as it might have been if last years color GSOC project had been finished.
How can this be done? Are there any mockups from last year available?
The Fill and Stroke dialog could use a rethinking. I really don't like that clicking on the Swatch icon automatically creates a new swatch.
The "swatch" tab can be moved to the color notebook and display solid color swatches. It would behave similar to the patterns tab.
We should also be displaying gradients in the swatches dialog.
No problem.
Same thing with clicking on the Pattern icon.
I'm afraid I didn't get the point. After clicking the pattern icon a list of patterns is displayed and no new pattern is created.
It might be interesting to think on how the Fill and Stroke tabs could be integrated with the new Swatches dialog.
I fully agree. Especially when solid colors, gradients and patterns are equally treated as swatches. My first mockups from this project included a modified fill and stroke interface [1]. They were rejected and replaced by integration of pattern preview widget in a fill and stroke tab. At those time, the mockups didn't involve the swatches dialog. Do you think this idea is worth considering again?
Tomasz
[1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/l2w3ybeozmzix73/integration.png
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Tomasz Boczkowski <penginsbacon@...400...> wrote:
Thanks!
It would also have been nice to be able to change multiple swatches at the same time as it might have been if last years color GSOC project had been finished.
How can this be done? Are there any mockups from last year available?
The Fill and Stroke dialog could use a rethinking. I really don't like that clicking on the Swatch icon automatically creates a new swatch.
The "swatch" tab can be moved to the color notebook and display solid color swatches. It would behave similar to the patterns tab.
We should also be displaying gradients in the swatches dialog.
No problem.
Same thing with clicking on the Pattern icon.
I'm afraid I didn't get the point. After clicking the pattern icon a list of patterns is displayed and no new pattern is created.
It might be interesting to think on how the Fill and Stroke tabs could be integrated with the new Swatches dialog.
I fully agree. Especially when solid colors, gradients and patterns are equally treated as swatches. My first mockups from this project included a modified fill and stroke interface [1]. They were rejected and replaced by integration of pattern preview widget in a fill and stroke tab. At those time, the mockups didn't involve the swatches dialog. Do you think this idea is worth considering again?
Tomasz
[1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/l2w3ybeozmzix73/integration.png
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...> wrote:
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 18:57 +0200, Tomasz Boczkowski wrote:
There's one more issue that I would like to consult.
- There's a number of palettes provided with inkscape. If they are
all displayed in tree mode, they occupy a lot of space in swatches dialog [1]. It can be quite uncomfortable to use "Ubuntu" and "Current document" palettes at the same time. In grid view mode, when all categories are collapsed into one, the situation is even worse [2].
Yes, this is a big problem.
I can think of three solutions:
- Leave tree mode [1] as is and in grid mode [2] display only expanded
palettes. To enhance discoverability it would be possible to expand and close palettes from popup menu [3]
I like the way the tree mode keeps the palettes separate. I prefer this to the grid mode.
- Use the popup menu [3] to choose palettes that are shown in swatches
dialog. If a category is shown it can further be expanded or collapsed.
There is a discoverablity issue here.
- Share a TreeModel behind swatches dialog between: patterns panel in
fill and stroke dialog, color chooser bar at the bottom of the screen and swatches dialog. Add a dialog to choose active palettes, as shown in [4]. The solution is similar to GIMP behaviour.
Sharing the TreeModel is a good idea, but I am not sure about the dialog to choose the palette.
Which of them do you like most?
What about adding a fourth option "Choose Palettes" to Tree, Grid, List that would be like your Palettes dialog
In third case we have a data model common to a number of dialogs. How can I implement creating and sharing the object? What comes to my mind is making the data model a singleton, or associating it with SPDesktop object. Are there other possibilities?
Singleton would be fine, I think.
Tav
[1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tfjj0ih62fxl03/swatches_categories1.png [2] https://www.dropbox.com/s/5675of3vfi926pt/swatches_categories2.png [3] https://www.dropbox.com/s/q16h3ecqhkn1pso/swatches_categories3.png [4] https://www.dropbox.com/s/v245xz3m1o82jch/palettes_dialog.png