Re: [Inkscape-devel] [UI] Rework Document Properties dialog

29 May 2016

      Hi Brynn, hi Maren,
thank you for the feedback!
On 28 May 2016 at 12:21, Brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
...
On the Page tab, what happened to the Display section, where you can show or
hide the page border, or disable antialiasing?
The display options would be moved to the general 'Preferences'
dialog, i.e. be made global. I assume there is not much need to set
them per document. Regarding the page border field, see below.
...
What is the benefit of moving Grids and Snap tabs to a separate dialog? Same
for Scripting tab?
Grids and snap options are not document properties in my eyes but
helper functionality. Also, snapping is rather a global functionality
than specific to a document.
On 28 May 2016 at 16:13, Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote:
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Sebastian, I've seen a lot of people using the 'set page border color'
option when they are using a dark background for their drawings.
Where would that option go? Or did you mean to remove that completely?
Well, I imagined this option not to be used often. Though I agree that
with dark backgrounds the contrast may be very low, so people would
like to adjust it.
As I guess keeping a high contrast is the main reason for having that
option and people are currently required to adjust the border color
accordingly when they set a background color, I see two possible
solutions to improve this:
1. Only set the viewport background color and keep the area outside of
it unchanged.
2. Adjust the border color automatically according to the chosen
background color, so that you always keep a high contrast (like it's
done for the grippies on object selection).
Having said that, this is probably out of scope for the blueprint, so
I may just add the option back for now.
...
As guides colors are document-specific (as far as I understand), having
them set in the preferences doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I imagine
that the best guide color also depends upon the selected background
color for the document, and as such should either also be in a separate
'Guide' dialog, or stay where it is.
While the same solution as for the border color might be applied
(automatically keep a high contrast), I agree that moving them into a
separate dialog might be a good solution - also in regard of future
feature additions like allowing to adjust their position precisely
within that dialog or allowing to define different colors per guide.
I'll adjust the proposal accordingly.
...
The coupling of document units and page size units, mmh. I think it
would simplify things for new users. For myself, I don't like it too much.
What are the use cases to adjust them individually?
...
I like the Licences being put into the Metadata section and the 'Save as
template' option a lot. The change to the colors tab also is really
nice. And the cancel button is really useful (so the document will not
be resized while you're still entering the values, and you can change
your mind, too, without several actions happening in the background).
Thank you!
...
What I always find difficult about these kinds of dialogs, though, is
that I never know if I need to hit OK for each tab separately, or if it
will apply for everything I changed in all tabs (different programs do
this differently). Is there an UI way to make this really obvious?
The programs I know on Windows and Linux always accept the whole
preferences when clicking the OK button.
Sometimes there is an additional 'Apply' button, which saves the
settings without closing the dialog. Eclipse has such a button within
its preferences dialog, for example. Though there it's clear that the
'Apply' button only affects the current options page, as it is located
within the options area (while the OK button is outside that area, so
it's meant to save all preferences).
...
Will the dialog close automatically upon hitting OK?
In accordance to the above, yes, it will close the dialog (as it is
located outside the tabs; normal behavior across programs).
Sebastian
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Am 28.05.2016 um 12:21 schrieb Brynn:
...
On the Page tab, what happened to the Display section, where you can show or
hide the page border, or disable antialiasing?
What is the benefit of moving Grids and Snap tabs to a separate dialog?
Same for Scripting tab?
All best, brynn

From: Sebastian Zartner
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 4:39 PM
To: Inkscape
Subject: [Inkscape-devel] [UI] Rework Document Properties dialog
Hi all,
I took the time to draft a reworked Document Properties dialog.
I already created a blueprint for that two years ago:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/inkscape/+spec/document-properties-rework
And now I finally also described my proposal in a bit more detail including
some mockups within the wiki:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/BlueprintReworkedDocumentPropertiesD...
Would be great if someone took the time to review it and give me some
feedback.
Thank you in advance,
Sebastian

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