On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Nathan Hurst wrote:
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:09:24 +1100 From: Nathan Hurst <njh@...5...> To: T Ingham <magnethead@...17...> Cc: inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Escaping Dialogs
T Ingham wrote:
On Nov 13, 2003, at 10:09 AM, Alan Horkan wrote:
If the purpose of Preview is to have the most possible available space available then also having a Full Screen View would be brilliant. As I recall Adobe use F (and or Shift F) to toggle through Full Screen, Full Screen with Menubar (my personal favourite when using any program extensively focussed on specific dedicated task) and back to normal again.
I was waiting for someone else to bring that up, F to enter fullscreen would be superb!
Wouldn't control-F be more standard? the only other app I know with a non-control key bound to full screen is gqview with 'v' for fullscreen View.
Well yes and no. I just want to start by saying you are both right but in different ways. We could probably have both F and Ctrl+F.
The great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. And then there are defacto standards (which is definately what we are talking about here) and questions of consistancey.
Ctrl+F is usually associated with Find and I am sure that is what the Gnome Guidelines say but Find is not something most Graphics application need so taking it for a more appropriate use is of course acceptable, although in something like Dia it might help you navigate to the right text label in a really huge diagram with lots of text, but I dont think that area is a target of Inkscape just yet. (Dia .shape files are mostly SVG, I'd love to be able to point Inkscape at an arbitrary XML document that contains embedd SVG and have it try to import the SVG and ignore the rest but that is just another random idea I dont have time to work on, which I suggested to Sodipodi ages ago).
Mozila and Internet Explorer and as just about everyone else who uses a browser (a huge userbase) know to use F11 for full screen (I guess someone must have thought that F11 looks like the word Full or something). It might be worthwhile to include F11 for fullscreen _as well as_ whatever other keybinding you decide on.
The GIMP, Adobe and others all use only use single letter shorcuts for the Toolbox items which is a sensible convention and I dont see any reason why InkScape would want to break it. That is not to say that having multiple keybings/shortcuts for the same item would be a bad idea (awkward to program perhaps). It is not the case that single letter shorcuts should never be used but most applications stick to Ctrl or Alt or Cmd or Shift combined with letters because text input is their main priority and single letter keybindings just wouldn't work. For consistancey with other applications it is best to use Ctrl+Letter keybindings. It is best to avoid or at least keep to a minimum the use of Alt keybindings for portability reasons and generally keeping out of the way of the workflow for menu accelarators (Alt+F+N for example is _File, _New).
I would check a bit more thoroughly but I dont have convenient access to Adobe Illustrator. I'll try and grab a full list of the shortcuts used by Adobe Illustrator (I already made a list of most of them while listing Visio keybindings for Dia) and put it on a webpage for future reference.
Sincerely
Alan Horkan