That's where it was in the patch from the students, however, it can be moved. It's well paired with the tweak tool though honestly.
In fact I would move both ;)
Fair enough points, however, modifying a core part of the UI like that would probably need a good amount of testing with our users. IMHO, not a 0.48 task... 0.49 is a refactoring cycle though, so it might be the right time to get some UI/UX people to contribute ideas prior to it. Additionally, there is a lot of existing documentation which might become less useful for WYSIWYG (picture shows the UI like so) users.
I understand that. The question is: has the current ordering been chosen after some sort of evaluation, or is it simply the result of adding tools during development where each developer felt it should be? I wouldn't feel too constrained to a semi-randomly generated order, if this is the case of course. I noticed the spray position just because it wasn't present in latest 0.47 revisions, and I had to readjust my template (which is not maximized and has the minimum size to have all the GUI visible) after it's been reintroduced.
Definitely subjective. Personally, I use a zoom tool in any graphics app far less frequently when good shortcuts exist (such as inkscape has). I can honestly say that I have only used it in Inkscape when double-checking documentation about inkscape. Ctrl+Mousewheel (and the number keys) are totally sufficient for me. So I would personally say that since it doesn't actually affect anything (other than view), it should be the absolute last tool in the toolbar (again, subjective and just my opinion).
In fact I wouldn't use the "frequency of use" as ordering basis because it's too subjective. It depends too much on the use you do of Inkscape that can be both a pure graphical and a technical tool, and of course you use very different tools in the two scenarios. I suggested the "complexity" of each tool just to have a maybe shared starting point, but I completely agree that it's a matter of taste. Again, the point is: has some sort of evaluation been done in choosing the current order? About the zoom tool, I never use it: the mouse wheel is too superior. But, I remember some complaints in small PC screens where not all tools where visible. I think that the zoom tool is so essential (think about a laptop where the wheel is not available) that should always be visible. That's what I mean with "basic tools".
The toolbar seems quite scrambled also when referring to F1-F8 quick select keys.
Probably not when it was initially implemented. :) I do agree though. I don't use the F-keys for primarily that reason.
I use F-keys a lot but I simply remember them: there's no way to guess them looking at the toolbar. :)
Thanks for bringing up the Toolbox organization. I do think that this subject is worth discussing... provided it doesn't turn into a tango icons discussion. ;)
Definitely! Forget me and everything I wrote if this happens... :)
Luca
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