Daniel Pope píše v St 17. 01. 2007 v 11:07 +0000:
Josef Vybiral wrote:
There was a different Tangoified version of the Inkscape icon submitted to the Tango mailing list yesterday.
I am aware of that icon. The bad about that icon is that its quality cannot be compared to the one in the tracker which looks imho much better.
share/clipart/inkscape.icon.svg is much higher quality than either.
Where is this file? I do not have it in my SVN checkout. I have /share/clipart/inkscape.logo.svg only and it is a logo, not an icon. There is no inkscape.svg icon in size of 48x48 or 32x32 or smaller sizes.
inkscape.ico is a nice shiny version of the same, but I can't see an SVG source for that.
I don't know if I am looking to different files, but none of those .ico files in the root directory of SVN checkout have the same quality like the logo you are reffering to.
It didn't include the brush, which is not part of our branding and should not be part of our package.
I think this is not a problem. We have sources for the icon included in the package so we can easily remove the brush and re-render it. If required we can ask the author of the icon if he approves that change.
No need: it's licensed as GPL.
Already done, updated package of icons is attached to the patch. Also there were some other updates, Andreas tweaked the 22x22 a bit and I tweaked 16x16 to give it better shape.
However, Tango can provide a Tango-flavour icon for Inkscape anyway so we don't need to include it ourselves. Doing so would make it look out-of-place on KDE, Mac or Windows, none of which support freedesktop.org icon themes and whose default styles are much closer to our current icon.
On the contrary, Tango project and tango style guidelines are here to make different desktops look unified and help icons fit default desktop icon themes well. (btw iirc KDE is going to follow the tango icon naming specs and follows also other standards by freedesktop.org).
The icon naming specs are here to make different desktops look unified. The Tango icon theme is just an implementation.
I didn't say anything else. But as you said, Tango is just an implementation of icon naming specifications. None application can have got its own icon in the tango-icon-theme package. Only applications themselves should ship their icons.
KDE is intending to implement the Tango naming specs, but this won't be for a while yet, and KDE's default theme will be Oxygen[1] anyway. Vista, XP and Mac have their own icon styles.
The situation appears to be:
- Vista, Mac OS X and Oxygen are more photo-realistic.
Yes, but these icons are intended to be displayed on high resolution displays and/or in bigger sizes. And to be honest, I do not see how we could make Inkscape's icon photo-realistic :)
- XP and Crystal are colourful and shiny.
Yes they are. To make icons fit these "themes" was also one of reasons why the example implementation of tango uses the palette that it uses; IIRC.
Tango and earlier Windows are flatter with contrasting outlines.
On Linux icons reflect icon themes.
I can't see that changing the provided icon helps much on Linux and might be a backwards step on other platforms.
As Andreas showed in his post to this thread, the proposed icon fits nicely even KDE's toolbar with Crystal icons so I do not think that it is a step backward. It would perhaps only if user used theme like Gant or some other cartoon-like styled themes.
But I can't see how an ideal solution might work. Should we maintain icons compatible with all the icon styles I mentioned?
Well, that would probably be most ideal solution. Or we can find a compromise between tango and other styles like oxygen, xp/vista etc..., to make icon look more neutral.
We could improve the appearance of the current Inkscape icon on dark backgrounds with a bit of soft white glow.
The white glow is not imo the way to go here. It does not make enough contrast like the white inner stroke does. Also the shape is not well defined by this way. Feel free to try it, it looks odd on any desktop you mention.
Hmm. Perhaps. But I find the inner strokes odd. They aren't consistent with the Tango Style guidelines[2] anyway:
"This stroke is very subtle and may not be aparent on some matte objects."
I think that the icon is correct according to the Tango Style guidelines. The stroke is not much apparent but is still visible enough to make the icon visible on dark backgrounds.
[1] http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ [2] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
Cheers Josef