Hi CR. You need to wait a lot, maybe years. is a very complex thing. :(

On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 21:26 +0100, C R wrote:
> > I want to have bitmap and vectors brushes. Like expression do with
> > skeletal strokes.
>
> Sounds awesome Jabier. I can't wait to see what you come up with!
> I'm thinking the Brushes dialogue could have tabs, one tab for vector
> brushes, and another for raster.
> In both, it would be great to have a preview for each brush to show
> how the resulting stroke looks.
>
> I also saw this interesting thing: User defined curves that affect
> the
> shape of the brush for custom power-curve strokes.
> Some artists are using these in programs like Affinity Designer to
> make arrows: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/uploads/monthly_01_2015
> /post-1105-0-54782600-1422122445.png
>
> Having this as a vector brush option would be super useful I think,
> especially for interesting custom brushes.
>
> -C
>
>
>
> > Cheers, Jabier.
> >
> > On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 04:50 -0600, brynn wrote:
> > > > If they say that, at least we'd know what they are talking
> > > > about.
> > >
> > > That as apposed to "The stroke is crap!" - Which could be any one
> > > of
> > > a
> > > hundred non-brush related problems. :)
> > >
> > > Well, I would not propose calling it a "stroke".  Maybe "stroke
> > > profile"?
> > > ("stroke tip", "stroke nib", "stroke shape", "quill"??)  Anything
> > > to
> > > avoid
> > > confusing it with raster brushes.
> > >
> > > > > "Why don't you have a so and so brush, like all the other
> > > > > paint
> > > > > programs?"
> > > >
> > > > We don't want wishlist items anymore? Also, would be a great
> > > > place
> > > > to
> > >
> > > put custom brushes. Currently, our users have to jump through
> > > some
> > > invisible hoops to get a shape to flow like a brush stroke. This
> > > has
> > > needed a proper dialogue for a while, and this is the perfect
> > > opportunity to give it one.
> > >
> > > That was a little bit changing the subject.  My point is that
> > > Inkscape is not a
> > > paint program.  They would be expecting the same thing from a
> > > vector
> > > brush that
> > > they get (or can do) with a raster brush.  Inkscape is not a
> > > paint
> > > program, and
> > > I would not be happy with a bigger opportunity for confusion
> > > about
> > > that.  We in
> > > the support areas already deal with the raster vs vector issue at
> > > least weekly
> > > (on average, although it tends to come in waves).
> > >
> > > So if it's called something besides "brush" it would reduce this
> > > confusion.
> > >
> > > > The thing is, with Jabier's brush system, you may be actually
> > > > be
> > > > able
> > >
> > > to do these things in the near future.
> > >
> > > Really?  It's going to be possible to convert a raster brush to a
> > > vector brush?
> > > And make it work and look the same?  ("I imported my brush into
> > > Inkscape, but it
> > > doesn't work right!" "Inkscape broke my brush!")
> > >
> > > > Also, when people do compare, we can immediately point out the
> > >
> > > advantages of Inkscape vector brushes vs. GIMP brushes - just
> > > have
> > > them zoom in. :) They'll get it right away.
> > >
> > > "we"??  I'll let you write the FAQ item which will certainly be
> > > needed, even if
> > > it were called something different from "brushes".
> > >
> > > You aren't seriously suggesting that we can explain the
> > > difference
> > > between
> > > raster and vector by telling users to zoom in?  Even the most
> > > simplified version
> > > (of the webpage we've been needing for so long) would have 4
> > > bullet
> > > points
> > > (although it ranges up to 10, depending who you talk to).
> > >
> > > The thing is, they won't just compare.  They won't post something
> > > like "I
> > > noticed something is different.  Why?"  They'll post things like
> > > the
> > > examples
> > > I've given.  They will think something is broken.
> > >
> > > Despite your reluctance, I would still encourage an effort to
> > > come up
> > > with some
> > > different name which implies a brush, but can't be confused with
> > > traditional
> > > raster brushes.
> > >
> > > All best,
> > > brynn
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: C R
> > > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 6:06 AM
> > > To: brynn
> > > Cc: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz ; inkscape-devel
> > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] pressure sensitivity for Pencil
> > > tool
> > > using
> > > powerstroke?
> > >
> > > > Well, I'm just thinking of it in terms of providing
> > > > support.  If
> > > > they are
> > > > called brushes, then pretty soon, we're getting messages like
> > > > "your
> > > > brushes
> > > > are crap, why don't you make them work like all the
> > > > other  brushes
> > > > in the
> > > > world".
> > >
> > > If they say that, at least we'd know what they are talking about.
> > > That as apposed to "The stroke is crap!" - Which could be any one
> > > of
> > > a
> > > hundred non-brush related problems. :)
> > >
> > > > "Why don't you have a so and so brush, like all the other paint
> > > > programs?"
> > >
> > > We don't want wishlist items anymore? Also, would be a great
> > > place to
> > > put custom brushes. Currently, our users have to jump through
> > > some
> > > invisible hoops to get a shape to flow like a brush stroke. This
> > > has
> > > needed a proper dialogue for a while, and this is the perfect
> > > opportunity to give it one.
> > >
> > > > "Why can't I import the brush I made in GIMP into Inkscape?"
> > > > And etc.  (We actually had the latter question in a forum, a
> > > > few
> > > > years ago!)
> > >
> > > The thing is, with Jabier's brush system, you may be actually be
> > > able
> > > to do these things in the near future.
> > > If we make up new names for things just to prevent comparisons
> > > and
> > > user questions, we sacrifice discover-ability, and also wishlist
> > > items
> > > that make the brush system more versatile and easier to use.
> > >
> > > No doubt we get all sorts of questions about raster
> > > transformations
> > > from people who are new to a vector editor. This is not a good
> > > enough
> > > reason to change common terminology between the programs, it is a
> > > good
> > > opportunity to educate people on the differences between vector
> > > and
> > > raster editors.
> > >
> > > A vector brush is still a brush, just as a raster brush is still
> > > a
> > > brush. The functionality is identical to the user, and so should
> > > the
> > > terminology.
> > >
> > > Also, when people do compare, we can immediately point out the
> > > advantages of Inkscape vector brushes vs. GIMP brushes - just
> > > have
> > > them zoom in. :) They'll get it right away.
> > >
> > > -C
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If we call them something that more reflects the vector-ness,
> > > > then
> > > > we don't
> > > > have that problem.  I'm afraid that people will compare them to
> > > > raster
> > > > brushes, and they just aren't the same.  They're similar, but
> > > > so
> > > > very
> > > > different, at the same time.
> > > >
> > > > In many other areas, Inkscape has created its own
> > > > terminology...or
> > > > used SVG
> > > > terminology.  Inkscape calls "nodes" what other programs call
> > > > "points", as a
> > > > prominent example.  Inkscape calls 'paths" what other programs
> > > > call
> > > > "lines".
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if we could look to SVG (standards) to guide the
> > > > terminology...somehow?
> > > >
> > > > All best,
> > > > brynn
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message----- From: C R
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 1:31 AM
> > > > To: brynn
> > > > Cc: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz ; inkscape-devel
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] pressure sensitivity for Pencil
> > > > tool
> > > > using
> > > > powerstroke?
> > > >
> > > > > Does Inkscape really strive to be a vector-brush drawing
> > > > > program??  Isn't
> > > > > that like saying "vector paint program"?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Inkscape is a vector drawing program. In previous threads, we
> > > > expanded
> > > > the term "drawing" to encompass, well pretty much anything. :)
> > > > Why limit Inkscape's vector capabilities because it doesn't fit
> > > > a
> > > > particular definition of "drawing"?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I've really seen the term brush used more and more lately, in
> > > > > reference to
> > > > > Inkscape, and in what I consider to be an inappropriate
> > > > > way.  Inkscape can
> > > > > achieve brush-like effects, with great effort.  But unless
> > > > > there
> > > > > really is
> > > > > some plan to actually add true brushes, and develop Inkscape
> > > > > in
> > > > > that
> > > > > direction, I think we should discourage using that term.  It
> > > > > gives a false
> > > > > impression of Inkscape capabilities, imo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The term "brush" is used because that's what the effect is.
> > > > Inkscape
> > > > already has vector brushes in the Caligraphy tool. It's
> > > > important
> > > > to
> > > > use terminology that users are familiar with. Saves a lot of
> > > > explaining, just to be told "well, why didn't you call them
> > > > brushes"
> > > > like everyone else? :) I brush (in all graphics programs)
> > > > refers to
> > > > a
> > > > shape applied along a path with added transformations. The
> > > > effect
> > > > is
> > > > that it acts like a brush, so the term brush is appropriate
> > > > here as
> > > > well as in other drawing/painting/editing applications.
> > > >
> > > > > As it's referred to on the Pen and Pencil control bars, I
> > > > > think
> > > > > Shapes is
> > > > > better, referring to the profile of the stroke.  Shapes, or
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > even
> > > > > "stroke profiles".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Or we could call them "brushes" like everyone else does, and
> > > > spare
> > > > the
> > > > user the technical jargon we make up. :)
> > > > Our "stroke profiles" are analogous to "brushes" in other
> > > > programs.
> > > > So
> > > > when people ask "does Inkscape have brushes?" And we hit them
> > > > with
> > > > "no, but we have stroke profiles." Yea... let's just call them
> > > > brushes
> > > > like everyone else does, for the same reasons everyone else
> > > > does.
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > > Referring to a different comment in this thread, I didn't
> > > > > intend
> > > > > to "bash"
> > > > > GIMP earlier.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That comment was in regard to the remark "There's something
> > > > good in
> > > > GIMP?" - Don't do this, people. GIMP project are our friends,
> > > > and
> > > > you'll make none here by belittling another projects hard work.
> > > >
> > > > > I just dislike the interface, as a personal opinion.
> > > >
> > > > We are not talking about GIMP's whole interface (as if one
> > > > could
> > > > write
> > > > it all off as "bad" or something).
> > > > Someone is mocking up wireframes based on how GIMP handles
> > > > brushes.
> > > > That's what sparked the GIMP comments... and people keep
> > > > derailing
> > > > the
> > > > conversation.
> > > > GIMP's entire user interface is not within the scope of this
> > > > thread.
> > > > Let's see where the wireframes go before denouncing it because
> > > > it
> > > > might look kinda like how GIMP does it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > There's
> > > > > every chance it's an effective interface for a raster
> > > > > program.  But I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > think it would be effective for Inkscape.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No one is suggesting copying GIMPs whole user interface. :P
> > > >
> > > > > What's wrong with the Shapes
> > > > > menu, to hold the stroke profiles or so-called "brushes"?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Where are the brushes in Inkscape"
> > > > "They are in the 'Shapes Menu'."
> > > >
> > > > Nah, not feeling it, personally. ;) Most everything in Inkscape
> > > > is
> > > > a
> > > > "shape". Say "Brush", and people will know what you are talking
> > > > about
> > > > right away.
> > > >
> > > > No need to reinvent the wheel here from my perspective. We
> > > > could
> > > > call
> > > > them "vector brushes" like Krita does. It's important to stick
> > > > with
> > > > terms that are analogous to real life terms that are similar to
> > > > the
> > > > functionality. It makes learning and recall easier, and thus
> > > > more
> > > > intuitive.
> > > >
> > > > -C
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > All best,
> > > > > brynn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message----- From: C R
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:39 AM
> > > > > To: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz
> > > > > Cc: inkscape-devel
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] pressure sensitivity for Pencil
> > > > > tool using
> > > > > powerstroke?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think breaking out the brushes and effects into a dialog of
> > > > > its
> > > > > own
> > > > > is really the only way to go. I've not encountered a single
> > > > > graphics
> > > > > program out there which handles many (potentially
> > > > > customisable)
> > > > > brushes that doesn't have it's own side-panel/dock for the
> > > > > brush
> > > > > pallet. It really MUST happen at some point for Inkscape to
> > > > > become a
> > > > > better vector-brush drawing program.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to all for the hard work on this, esp Jabier!
> > > > > -C
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Jabier Arraiza
> > > > > <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far I undertand boolop union result is more for the
> > > > > > caligraphic tool
> > > > > > than for the pencil tool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway we have a feature that Nate like too much and is not
> > > > > > pressent in
> > > > > > Calligrapic tool is the min/max pressure. This is easy to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > but we
> > > > > > need more space on the toolbox because it not fit into my
> > > > > > monitor size.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is not the only tool that have this problem and when the
> > > > > > program grow
> > > > > > the problem become bigger. Also because the lack of space
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > need to
> > > > > > compress the widgets and make hard to undertand. The
> > > > > > cuestion:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ¿What about removing this toolbar by a tool dialog in the
> > > > > > right
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > for example Gimp, that autoupdate controls between tool
> > > > > > changes?
> > > > > > This give "unlimited" size to expand tools. Also I'm in
> > > > > > favor
> > > > > > of a
> > > > > > expander at the end of this dialog for advanced users or
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > all day
> > > > > > use features.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finaly seems easy boolop union with previous strokes in
> > > > > > calligraphic
> > > > > > tool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 2017-08-28 at 13:13 -0400, Nate Yungkans wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi! I figure I'll just throw myself in here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It sounds like you are requesting something like the
> > > > > > > Adobe
> > > > > > > illustrator blob brush. Essentially this tool is like
> > > > > > > Inkscape's
> > > > > > > calligraphy brush with an auto merge feature. Which could
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > fact be
> > > > > > > a handy feature. In illustrator you can paint with the
> > > > > > > brush
> > > > > > > and the
> > > > > > > new shapes merge it with a selection or a layer or maybe
> > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > all.
> > > > > > > The same effect can be achieved by using Inkscape's
> > > > > > > calligraphy brush
> > > > > > > and then merging the shapes. All the blob brush does is
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > automatic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The really cool thing you added to the pencil that would
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > be cool
> > > > > > > on the calligraphy tool is the Max/min size.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Illustrator Bob brush tool: https://youtu.be/4bhltsqSp_0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am I correct in my interpretation of what you are asking
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > Miguel?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Aug 27, 2017 10:12 PM, "Miguel Lopez" <reptillia39@...3605...
> > > > > > > e.co
> > > > > > > m>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I like the work that's being done, by the way, I have a
> > > > > > > > suggestion.
> > > > > > > > You know how you can spray objects and have the path
> > > > > > > > joined
> > > > > > > > together, right? I'd like to see the option to do that
> > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > stroking.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/27/2017 6:38 PM, Ivan Louette via Inkscape-devel
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Very convincing ! And there we have even more control
> > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > Expression for simple lines !
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ivan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Le Lundi 28 août 2017 0h27, Jabier Arraiza
> > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiz
> > > > > > > > > a@...3394...
> > > > > > > > > .es> a écrit :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This week I do a similar implementation and mark it
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > merge
> > > > > > > > > request.
> > > > > > > > > Here are a preview of the new branch running:
> > > > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/inkscapepencilpressure
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > All the best, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 22:36 -0400, Nate Yungkans
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > > > I'm Nate, the one who posted in the forums. I
> > > > > > > > > > started
> > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > asking if
> > > > > > > > > > the feature existed, but was told I should ask for
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > feature so
> > > > > > > > > > here I am. Hello :)  First I wanted to say I love
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > program
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > find the features super useful. The powerstroke is
> > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > coolest
> > > > > > > > > > features and I am having a lot of fun playing
> > > > > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > with it. I
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > been an Adobe Illustrator for years but I am
> > > > > > > > > > already
> > > > > > > > > > enjoying
> > > > > > > > > > inkscape more. Anyways, the reason I was asking
> > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > pressure
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive line work is because it could be a huge
> > > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > saver
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > manga art(or any extensive line art) where line
> > > > > > > > > > work is
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > incredibly
> > > > > > > > > > important. It seems like all of the features
> > > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > > exist in
> > > > > > > > > > Inkscape, but not together as a tool. The
> > > > > > > > > > calligraphy
> > > > > > > > > > pen works
> > > > > > > > > > nicely with pressure and the mass(for precision),
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > if the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > line
> > > > > > > > > > needs to be edited in an meaningful way, they
> > > > > > > > > > basically
> > > > > > > > > > need to
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > redrawn.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The powerstroke feature is awesome, but in its
> > > > > > > > > > current
> > > > > > > > > > state
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > require a lot of manual setting line thicknesses if
> > > > > > > > > > there are a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > of complicated lines. Being able to control the
> > > > > > > > > > stroke
> > > > > > > > > > width
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > pressure would make it a very smooth process.
> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately it
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > not be as useful without a preview as you draw.
> > > > > > > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > > > > > it could
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > the same preview the calligraphy tool uses? Even if
> > > > > > > > > > that isn't
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a 100%
> > > > > > > > > > representation of the final product, it would guide
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > user to
> > > > > > > > > > understand how much pressure they are applying.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I asked about an auto simplify feature not only for
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > benefit
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > reducing the number of nodes, but also in aiding
> > > > > > > > > > fast
> > > > > > > > > > smoothed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > line
> > > > > > > > > > work. I see that a line drawn with a pencil has a
> > > > > > > > > > smoothing
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > feature,
> > > > > > > > > > maybe that can also be applied to the powerstroke
> > > > > > > > > > outer
> > > > > > > > > > lines
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > well; or maybe the pressure has an adjustable
> > > > > > > > > > sample
> > > > > > > > > > rate?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Additionally, it would be fantastic if there was a
> > > > > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > increase or
> > > > > > > > > > decrease the relative distance of the powerstroke
> > > > > > > > > > nodes
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > main
> > > > > > > > > > path. In essence it would be like increasing or
> > > > > > > > > > decreasing the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > width
> > > > > > > > > > of the powerstroke. As an example I recorded my
> > > > > > > > > > screen
> > > > > > > > > > using a
> > > > > > > > > > variable brush tool in Illustrator. It reads the
> > > > > > > > > > pen
> > > > > > > > > > pressure
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > applies it to the stroke, but also allows that
> > > > > > > > > > stroke
> > > > > > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > increases
> > > > > > > > > > or decreased.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Screen capture example Video: https://youtu.be/u78J
> > > > > > > > > > lGD9
> > > > > > > > > > Y34
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Example of the adobe brush tool simplify/fidelity
> > > > > > > > > > options: http
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > s://yo
> > > > > > > > > > utu.be/iIW_oeUcO2E?t=144
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That same tool in adobe also has settings to
> > > > > > > > > > control/limit the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > brush
> > > > > > > > > > size and shape. I've been utilizing mass, thinning
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > fixation
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > accomplish this effect in Inkscape.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  https://youtu.be/iIW_oeUcO2E?t=97
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think that covers what I was originally asking
> > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > more.
> > > > > > > > > > Hopefully it was not too much. Thanks so much for
> > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > the hard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > you have put into the program!  I know this
> > > > > > > > > > software is
> > > > > > > > > > a lot
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > of work
> > > > > > > > > > and new features are no small thing. I am not
> > > > > > > > > > really a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > programmer so
> > > > > > > > > > I can't contribute to the effort that way, but if
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > need or
> > > > > > > > > > desire to include a UX/UI designer I would be happy
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > help!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Manga line example that I did not draw:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you got through the whole email, thanks for
> > > > > > > > > > listening!
> > > > > > > > > > -Nate
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Nate
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Jabier Arraiza
> > > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > @marke
> > > > > > > > > > r.es> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I wait he present to the list to reply.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 05:44 -0600, brynn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Brynn.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Great and easy to do. I could do if we want.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > problem is
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > realtime
> > > > > > > > > > > > preview, so you need to finish the path to see
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > variable
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > width.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I can add a preview while drawing but
> > > > > > > > > > > > this is
> > > > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > complex.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > _
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well I don't use this kind of feature
> > > > > > > > > > > > myself.  So I
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > couldn't say
> > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > > the lack of
> > > > > > > > > > > > live preview would be crippling.  I'll try to
> > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > person who
> > > > > > > > > > > > posted the
> > > > > > > > > > > > message to subscribe to the list, so he can
> > > > > > > > > > > > give
> > > > > > > > > > > > comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How would it work?  Would it add pink nodes
> > > > > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > pressure is
> > > > > > > > > > > > greater?  And
> > > > > > > > > > > > then the artist drags them after the path is
> > > > > > > > > > > > finished?  Or
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > variable
> > > > > > > > > > > > width be immediately evident when the path is
> > > > > > > > > > > > finished?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And it would only work with graphics tablets?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One benefit for such a tool (it seems to me)
> > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > be that
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > number
> > > > > > > > > > > > of nodes
> > > > > > > > > > > > probably would not build up so fast, as it does
> > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Calligraphy.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Jabier.  I'll try to get this guy to
> > > > > > > > > > > > subscribe so
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > he can
> > > > > > > > > > > > discuss
> > > > > > > > > > > > directly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > All best,,
> > > > > > > > > > > > brynn
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Jabier Arraiza
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 2:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] pressure
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Pencil
> > > > > > > > > > > tool
> > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > > powerstroke?
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