On 7-4-2014 2:23, Martin Owens wrote:
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 00:25 +0200, Johan Engelen wrote:
Important point: you forgot Josh Andler as the release manager!!! About the dates, from your mail I take it that you didn't discuss with Bryce and Josh? I think it would have been better to do so first. It comes across a bit rude to bypass them and put it on the website just like that.
It is deliberate but hesitant.
Being deliberately rude I think rarely has the desired effect, and in any case does not create a friendly atmosphere people want to work and spend time in.
Inkscape is ready to release and it was clear at LGM that Inkscape is well respected but many of our users came to me with their concerns about our release schedules.
And so this page is basically a template with a good suggestion for timing with lots of space. We can update it if we feel the release needs even more time and it should reflect both the consensus of developers and the release manager.
Indeed it should, fixed that for you.
I know I put myself in a vulnerable position by being bold, and rude
Please be considerate of others too. I don't think anybody does /not/ want to release; we all want the release sooner than later. To help speed things along, potentially offending people is not so helpful. Instead, a list of current TODO items has a higher chance of success I feel. I've added it to the page.
in this case, but my hope is that I can ask for forgiveness. Although really the release is a technical matter and so is probably a discussion for developers with the release manager. I'd like to suggest we commit to this release in a firm and adventurous way.
And sooner rather than later. :-)
(What does your role as "supervisor" mean?)
The person who finds the release manager and pushes for firm schedules. I might as well put my name on the line for the job I'm already doing. Not sure about the name for the job though, any suggestions welcome.
I don't think we can add all related jobs to that page... The release managers' names are useful for people to direct questions too. But who would want to contact a guy who pushes the ones who are pushing, that he should push the pushers?
For the New Features / bug fixes : I think you can scrap those and point to the release notes instead. What is more interesting to put on this page is links to open bugs, or focus points. So that we know what to work on to move the release along.
The page is public facing, not necessarily developer facing. For that the wiki is the primary vehicle. So bug fixes and new features are useful and should be edited to be more in line with what the public should see (translate into user-speak if possible).
This is exactly what our wiki's Release Notes page is.
My hope is that this will show something is happening with the project to the outside world and give us a sense of our activity.
Hope this works *cross fingers*
Best Regards, Martin Owens