On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 03:04 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Jon Phillips wrote:
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:07:31 -0700 From: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> To: Open Clip Art Library list <clipart@...626...>, Inkscape Development Mailing List inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Clipart] SVG in OpenDocument
Hello all,
Would anyone be interested in following up on the problems between the OpenDocument format and SVG?
I really hope someone with more techincal authority than me will step up to this and I want to thank Daniel for tackling it (the OpenDocument format is huge and scary). It is a shame that OpenDocument seems to be moving even further away from SVG in an attempt to support more features when what we would like to see is it moving more towards SVG.
Would be great to be able to throw the main.xml from an OpenDocument at an SVG parser and get some reasonable results. The potential for XML formats to degrade gracefully is an interesting one and if OpenDocument was constructed as SVG with extras instead of new format vaguely resembling SVG it could work and potentially exploit a much wider variety of existing tools.
The OpenDocument TC is totally interested in supporting SVG and have worked to do this. I think things will get better. The main thing is that they have extra functionality that SVG doesn't support, and for these elements have made their own namespace I believe. I think is ok now...our speaking up paid off already.
Mental, you seemed most versed in discussing these issues previously. I fear we are too late! OOo is geared up with OpenDocument support and I noticed that Krita and other KOffice apps already support the format. Man, why couldn't OpenDocument just use SVG man...ugh!
Krita is the Paint application. I'm almost certain it is not using OpenDocument.
Karbon 14 the draw application is not using OpenDocument yet and is currently without a maintainer. If we have any enthusiastic C++ programmers interested in improving the SVG Importer for Karbon (and the exporter too) it would really help.
Yes, it does in karbon-1.4.0 on gentoo.
KChart will not be using the OpenDocumetn Draw format but rather it will be using a Chart/Graph format from OpenDocument. KChart provides SVG export using the built in functionality of QPainter in QT3 and this is due to be improved later in the QT4 development cycle.
Inkscape will need to support import/export of OpenDocument in the near future. http://books.evc-cit.info/odbook/book.html
Work is being done by INdt on behalf of Nokia to improve the OpenDocument support in both Abiword and Gnumeric. There will be quite a lot of potential for code reuse when that work is more advanced.
Good...
I'm sure that getting the format fixed will be a slow process. I've never heard of a standards body that did things fast. But I do want to see the format fixed.
As for myself, I'm slowly reading through a book on OpenDocument, so I can have a better idea of what I'm talking about:
Here's hoping this all works out.
Sincerely
Agree!
Jon