I'm joining Brynn in thanking you that you started this discussion, Krzysztof :)
Am 05.10.2015 um 18:08 schrieb Krzysztof Kosiński:
2015-10-05 13:55 GMT+02:00 Brynn <brynn@...3133...>:
I haven't seen any version of the CoC that I would object to. Although having said that, I think more details are better than less, in this type of document.
- What I like about the shorter version is that it puts the 'unwanted behaviours' together in a shorter list. I also like the new 'Forgive' section a lot.
What I like less is that the shorter version sounds less friendly to me, where it doesn't explain, and where it speaks of excluding people forever, or not including people right away if they don't show obvious willingness to follow the CoC. I believe that people can learn.
That's why I preferred the soft-spoken style of the longer version. Maybe we can make the short version sound a little more friendly? I would also like to keep the burn-out hint (which was important to Bryce, who said it was a real-life problem), the section about being inviting, and asking for help, too - people who don't dare to ask for help can create a real mess ;).
If the CoC is too long, it discourages people from actually reading it.
- Unfortunately, this is probably true ;)
If we want to ban "non-family-friendly" images completely, then I can add a section on guidelines for user-submitted content. I thought that this type of art would be allowed but hidden behind a content warning, and not labeling explicit images as such would be penalized.
- We might also some day have a section about Terms and Conditions, which people must agree to when they register for a website account.
Maybe mentioning the family-friendliness could better fit in there? It's more a website-specific thing, not so much a community-ground-rules thing.
The versions at the bottom of the page are codes from other projects, such as Rust and Django, and the version on top is an amalgamation that was proposed as our CoC. What I wrote is a rather large modification of what was at the top.
- Exactly. I kept the others in for reference of what is considered to be a 'complete CoC'.
The code here is fairly complete and I like the section structure, but is also rather vague for a technical community
and contains a lot of stuff that apply only to events where participants are present in person that I think are not relevant to our project.
- That's something I cannot find - which parts are those?
Thanks again for taking this topic to discussion,
Maren