On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, bulia byak wrote:
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:36:59 -0400 From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: Inkscape-Devel inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] NEW: Xara keyboard shortcuts
On 4/14/06, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> wrote:
Yes, mostly expanded, as there was not a lot to change :) Anyway, this process should be user-driven. If after some of our changes, someone prefers old Inkscape bindings, he or she is welcome to submit
In practice a user would need to be very disgruntled to bother making that much effort, whereas it is relatively little effort to do it preventatively.
OK, when we do some really major changes such as F1 for Help, I'll make sure to make the old layout available as an alternative.
It would be ridiculous
hold off on the firey rhetoric please, implying my suggestions are ridiculous might be seen as hostile (I'm trying to get used to it but your word choice still seems harsh)
This was said not about your suggestions, but about some reductio-ad-absurdum scenario I described. Anyway, I'm ready to
I agree the guidelines can be taken to absurd extremes and I always try very hard to figure out _why_ and take a best guess at the intent behind the guideline.
apologize for the word if it sounded harsh.
now worries.
Perfect example. Maybe over time we won't need preferences that often, and the key may be freed (though I doubt it). But now we DO need preferences pretty often, and I see no reason not to assign a key to them. By the way, both Xara and AI do have a key for preferences.
(I like having _Edit, Pr_efernces so that in effect you do have fast access using the keyboard combination Alt+E E.)
making it very difficult to make any changes at all let alone.
As promised, now you have the easy way to try to disentangle this mess by editing your own copy of default.xml. Or, just try xara.xml :)
I might try Xara but I prefer to have transferrable easily marketable skills and use Illustrator keybindings (I'd be working on it right now if I didn't have to rummage through SVN to get at the default.xml file).
If working tech support has teaches you anything is that software churn and the required retraining is a huge pain in the ass. If and when things like keybindigns get changed you dont want to be changing them too often.
So far we haven't abused the possibility :)
True. Much as I want to change the keybindings it is best to change a group of them rather than changing them incrementally over several releases.
Numero uno:
F1 for Help
Thanks in advance.
Yeah, I know :) OK, so now you have xara.xml which implements it. Try it for the next version at least. Why don't we return to this for 0.45 if there's interest.
I'd like to have a short list of proposed changes to the defaults ofr 0.45 or more likely 0.46
Found it agian, searched for 'horkana illustrator' and turned up a post I made on the Koffice list. Anyway here is the Macromedia Fireworks MX keybindings lists: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/shortcuts/keys.html
That's helpful, though it looks like it only lists menu commands and not e.g. tools.
I didn't grab tools at the time and I have long since uninstalled the trial copy of Macromedia. If anyone else could post keybinding lists it would be helpful.
Thanks