There should not be any info ads... ever. As for the controls... the video content should not have to compensate for poor video player ui decisions. I can add a little more lead-in time so the controls have time to vanish, but that's where the captions will go anyway, so there really isn't any getting around it. :)

-C 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Maybe the bottom part could be upper to avoid video controls ans info,
ads...

Regards.

On mar, 2015-09-01 at 10:29 +0100, C R wrote:
> Here, try this file instead:
> http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/inkscape_intro_animation_wip.mp4
>
>
>
> For a (vastly) superior, cross-platform video player, check out VLC:
> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
>
>
>
> Be sure to drop them a few bucks via their donation page after you
> discover how awesome VLC player is. :D
>
>
> -C
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
>         Hi Everyone,
>                 What kind of player do I need to show a OGV video?
>         Windows Media
>         Player doesn't recognize it.
>
>         Thanks :-)
>         brynn
>         ____________________
>
>
>         From: C R
>         Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:21 PM
>         To: Brynn
>         Cc: inkscape-devel
>         Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] User Help (tutorials)
>
>
>         Quick video template update (to keep bullshit from walking ;)
>         )
>         I've almost completed the intro animation, but got bogged down
>         with some
>         emergency charity work that a friend required last-minute.
>         I wanted to add in the sound effects, which I've recorded
>         myself, but ran
>         out of time tonight.
>         However, here is a quick wip sample for your Monday night
>         amusement:
>
>
>         www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/inkscape_intro_animation_wip.ogv
>
>
>
>         The title "INKSCAPE" will fade in underneath and "Draw Freely"
>         will be
>         scribbled in underneath it as last additions.
>
>
>         Thanks for the patience. Hope everyone's collective weekend
>         has been a
>         pleasant one. :)
>
>
>         More soon.
>
>
>         -C
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:31 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...>
>         wrote:
>
>         PS- Speaking of crowd-funding, be sure to visit Synfig Open
>         Source Animation
>         Studio's crowdfunding campaign and show them some love! :)
>         https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/synfig-free-animation-software#/story
>
>
>         On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
>
>
>
>         So I'm getting late to this discussion.  I guess it sounds
>         like people are
>         ready to do this!
>
>
>
>         This will be an ongoing project, so input is great at any
>         stage. You're not
>         late either, it's early times still. :)
>
>         (sorry, kind of long)
>
>
>
>
>         Also never a problem. More information is better!
>         Welcome to the discussion, and thanks for your advise!
>
>         I'm of the opinion that there is no lack of tutorials in the
>         Inkscape
>         community.  I've done some both intensive and extensive
>         searching for
>         Inkscape tutorials, to compile a centralized source of
>         tutorials, for the
>         community (something I saw lacking in the community, and
>         wanted to provide).
>         http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php
>
>
>
>
>         Thanks for the link, and for your work collecting and vetting
>         these
>         resources! :) I'll have a look through these, I'm sure they
>         will be quite
>         useful not only in determining the best way to proceed, but in
>         terms of
>         information content and possible linking from the finished
>         documentation
>         (pending approval from the parties that made them). It may
>         also be good to
>         have two video sections that link off the main Inkscape.org
>         website, one to
>         a set of official tutorials, and the other to the growing set
>         of excellent
>         community-done resources.
>
>
>
>         For the tool feature videos, it would be useful to have small
>         official
>         videos to accompany the documentation. I find that it's quite
>         a matter of
>         preference which people prefer (written or video tutorial).
>         Even my own
>         preference changes depending on my moods, so having both
>         available is no bad
>         thing.
>
>
>         Official videos have manifold purpose:
>
>
>         -They provide concise context-relevant information that we can
>         include
>         alongside the documentation for Inkscape. This saves time
>         having to google
>         for videos of the information at hand, so more time can be
>         spent learning in
>         a streamlined way, that it may not be possible to get from
>         even a list of
>         several thousand user-contributed videos. There will be a lot
>         of repeating
>         concepts that are covered in user-videos, but there will also
>         be be a lot of
>         gap-filling as well.
>
>
>         -They provide more content-rich inkscape.org, which adds to
>         the professional
>         image of the project, and is important for trust and provides
>         a nicer
>         experience for new users. I've lost count how many times
>         people posting on
>         the forums have been told to "google it" (even though I
>         reached these
>         comments BY Googling!). Why should they have to google it?
>         Users can spend
>         more time learning, and less time reading what other users
>         think about their
>         issue on forums (that's time saved in hours across possibly
>         hundreds of
>         comments). We are in the unique position to provide an answer,
>         on the spot,
>         that is guaranteed to be the correct one. :)
>
>
>         -They are a resource under the project's control. One of the
>         criticisms that
>         our open source community faces is that information is
>         scatter-shot, and you
>         may not be able to find resources, or links may be broken to
>         the original
>         content, or the content may only be available in some
>         countries. Having
>         control over our content ensures we can reach the most people.
>
>
>         -They give us another opportunity to connect with more users.
>         This is
>         important not only for development purposes, but also for
>         social media
>         campaigns for development acceleration, appearing at graphics
>         conventions,
>         etc. (I do all my convention-booth graphics in Inkscape, btw.
>         So thanks
>         again to all the Inkscape devs for making life easy for me!)
>
>
>         -It enhances the public image of Inkscape as a professional
>         resource for
>         serious designers. Great-looking well-thought out videos are a
>         must for a
>         project like Inkscape! :) Every video serves as yet one one
>         more
>         advertisement for the Inkscape project. The more of them there
>         are, the more
>         eyes are likely to see them. We can capture search keywords as
>         well with
>         each video, gaining the project more exposure.
>
>
>         -It provides an opportunity for us to teach best practices for
>         professional
>         design workflows, as well as educate new users, and ease the
>         transition from
>         commercial software packages. (If you Like Illustrator, you're
>         going to LOVE
>         Inkscape!) :D
>
>
>
>         So I'm bewildered with complaints of people not being able to
>         find
>         tutorials.  I did that all with my handy internet search
>         engine.  Nothing
>         fancy, I can assure you!  I wonder if maybe those folks just
>         have not
>         ventured outside of DA, in their search?
>
>
>
>         Or their search terms didn't turn up any relevant videos. One
>         of the
>         problems with video content is if you are looking for
>         something very
>         specific, you may have to hunt through lots of complete
>         tutorials, hoping
>         they cover the thing you want to know. This problem is solved
>         more easily
>         with feature-focused videos, accompanied by all relevant
>         keywords. The
>         inkscape.org website should also contain a search box to
>         search these
>         keywords in our own collection of official videos. I also
>         recommend an
>         expandable tree-style map of our videos providing a way to
>         click down and
>         feel out what you are searching for (handy if you don't know
>         what a feature
>         is named).
>
>
>
>
>         For example, a piece of the tree could go:
>
>
>         +Tools
>            -Select and Transform Tool
>            -Edit Paths By Nodes Tool
>            +Tweak Objects Tool
>               - Tool Overview
>               - Using Different Modes
>               - Width, Force, and Fidelity - Getting the effects you
>         want
>
>               + FAQ / Troubleshooting
>
>                  - Why does the rest of my shape turn into a glob?
>                  - It's only working on some objects, but not others
>                  - etc.
>            -Zoom Tool
>
>            -Measurement Tool
>            -Rectangle/Square Tool
>            -etc.
>
>         -Working with Shapes
>
>         -Working with Layers
>
>         -Working with Groups
>         -Selecting
>         -Filters
>
>         -Exporting
>         +Using Colours
>
>            -What is a colour space?
>            -What is a colour system?
>            +FAQ / Troubleshooting
>                -My printer wants an Illustrator (.ai) file, arrrgh!
>                -My greens are looking too Blue in print
>                -My blacks are too grey in print
>            +What should I use for my project?
>            +Can Inkscape use PANTONE colours?
>         -Pre-Press Considerations
>         -etc. etc.
>
>
>
>
>         Note that only certain branches of the tree need videos.
>         Others could have a
>         quick animated gif with a text explanation. It's important to
>         include all
>         the written and video materials together, so visitors do not
>         have to visit
>         different sections of the website to find the information they
>         are after.
>
>
>
>         Nevertheless, I do think it's important that there are
>         "official" tutorials.
>         There was some talk a few months ago about building a
>         Documentation team,
>         and I would certainly look forward to participating in such a
>         group
>         (although iirc, it was only going to happen when someone had
>         more time.....I
>         don't remember the exact details anymore).
>
>
>
>
>
>         I would be happy to assist the Documentation team.
>         I would be equally happy to help assemble it if those involved
>         previously do
>         not presently have the time.
>
>
>         I think more *official* tutorials are needed, than the 6 or so
>         currently
>         available.  But I have serious reservations about video
>         tutorials with music
>         background and no narration.  I have never seen such a video
>         that I found
>         was helpful, in my opinion.
>
>
>         There will be narration, it will just be textual,
>         step-by-step, rather than
>         voiced over.
>         There is nothing preventing people from adding voice overs,
>         but I'd like to
>         start cranking out as many of these videos as possible, and
>         I'm not
>         convinced my voice would be pleasing enough. :)
>
>
>          (You may notice there are probably less than 5
>         YouTube vids on my page.  It's because I haven't found many
>         worthwhile, that
>         aren't connected to a proprietary venture.)
>
>
>
>         Yes, control over the videos is a key benefit of doing them
>         ourselves.
>
>         Videos from the Screencasters (heathenx/Richard Querrin)
>         series are still
>         the best video tutorials around, imo (even though now somewhat
>         dated).  I
>         think they represent the standard we should strive for, if
>         there is some
>         consensus that video tutorials are needed more that text
>         tutorials.
>         Although I haven't seen any indication of a need for video
>         tutorials, more
>         than text.  It's just trendy, afaict.
>
>
>
>         For the longer videos, I'd agree, but for feature
>         documentation videos, we
>         will need more concise and much shorter videos with less
>         banter, and none of
>         the "subscribe, rate, etc." stuff. :)
>
>             That sounds like a cute idea for an intro to the tutorials
>         (the bouncing
>         bubbles, etc.), but honestly, that's the fun part of making
>         tutorials.  Has
>         anyone volunteered to make the actual tutorial part of the
>         videos?  (I
>         haven't finished with reading the whole thread yet.)
>
>
>
>         I'm volunteering for both at this point, but once we have the
>         kit (which
>         includes the finished intro/outro, and caption overlay), it
>         will be easier
>         to enlist others to help with the tutorial parts
>         (screen-captures, and
>         captioning).
>         It may sound fun and trivial, but the intro, format and
>         templates are the
>         ground-work for a professional video series. They will make
>         the tutorial
>         content consistent, and MUCH easier to do. The point of these
>         initial steps
>         is to produce a kit that we can use to make quick,
>         professional looking
>         videos with Inkscape branding. While I will have the initial
>         sample
>         completed this weekend, I suspect we will change it a bit
>         based on feedback.
>
>
>
>         Thanks for listening,
>         brynn
>
>
>
>         Thanks for your input and thoughts! They help tremendously.
>
>
>         -C
>
>
>
>         --------------------------------------------------
>         From: "Martin Owens" <doctormo@...400...>
>         Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:53 AM
>         To: "Inkscape Devel List"
>         <inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>         Subject: [Inkscape-devel] User Help (tutorials)
>
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