A) Clones without Original?
On 1/9/10 09:24, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 09:38 -0700, Valerie wrote:
- No distinction between original and clones
I'm personally in favour of this, but I'm not sure what the rest of you think. I can see advantages to being able to grab any random clone and start changing it, most people eventually have to delete the original anyway. However, I probably missed the reasons against this. Thoughts?
Original and clones are treated differently:
- You have to select the original for editing
- You must take care to not delete the original, as that turns all
clones into independent objects
VS
There are only clones:
- Choose any clone to edit them all
- Delete any clone (no need to check the statusbar or to try editing to
keep clones and original apart).
But maybe things are as they are because of the structure of SVG?
AFAIU clones don't exist without linking to an original. Deleting the original turns all clones into originals too (i.e. it unlinks them).
SVG 1.1 > Document Structure > The ‘use’ element: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#UseElement
Maybe the original could be 'hidden' in the <defs> section (like <symbol>'s, with a toggle in the dialog to 'unhide' it for editing).
Alternatively the first clone tile could be skipped, as proposed in Bug #309873 in Inkscape: “skip first tile clone” https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/309873
B) List of feature requests for tiled clones in the bug tracker:
579617 13 of 17 Wallpaper groups at symmetry tab of clones behaves erratically ” https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/579617
553912 Cannot create offset parallel tiled clones of vertical or horizontal lines https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/553912
412768 Clone tiling needs "Array" between points option https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/412768
319648 Symmetry tab needs help on modes https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/319648
309873 skip first tile clone https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/309873
281719 clone dialog improvement https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/281719
171900 Tile Clones: User defined transformation order https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/171900
171804 Tiled Clone Trace Enhancements https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/171804
170835 Absolute units for shift in Tile Clones https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170835
170823 Selecting all (tiled) clones of an object https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170823
170745 cancel button for for tile cloning https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170745
C) most often reported bug with 'Tiled Clones'
168651 "Tiled Clones" inside transformed groups broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168651
~suv