That change with the Star/Polygon tool is a great example of where it makes sense. Nice work. :)

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Ok, I prepare a commit soon with dependent toolbar hides.
Cheers, Jabier.

El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 14:38 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
> Regarding Ellipse/Circle and Selector Tools, that gets into hiding
> stuff
> that should be visible by default. With the Spray Tool example, the
> toggles
> that are hidden are effectively dependent on the "parent" feature
> being
> enabled in the first place.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <
> jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
>
> > Ok, Tav. Anyway, hidding it from toolbar actions like the first
> > patch/video?
> >
> > Cheers, Jabier.
> >
> >
> > El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 19:49 +0100, Tavmjong Bah escribió:
> > > On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
> > > > Another view with select tool:
> > > >
> > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > >
> > > I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space
> > > reasons
> > > is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more
> > > difficult.
> > >
> > > Tav
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
> > > > > Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in
> > > > > the
> > > > > UI?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Josh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arrai
> > > > > za@...1367...
> > > > > ar
> > > > > ke
> > > > > r.es>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected
> > > > > > element,
> > > > > > ex:
> > > > > > full
> > > > > > circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like
> > > > > > currently?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
> > > > > > > I don't think there is any benefit to styling them
> > > > > > > differently.
> > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > those options are applicable if that base functionality
> > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > toggled
> > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > long-click the icon because would allow you to change the
> > > > > > > default
> > > > > > > state of
> > > > > > > that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in
> > > > > > > Scribus
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > long-click on the icons they have for things like shape
> > > > > > > tools.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just my .02
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Josh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > video
> > > > > > > > coments.
> > > > > > > > He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a
> > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > review we
> > > > > > > > have two options: Style the buttons diferently,
> > > > > > > > probabily
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > border
> > > > > > > > -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the
> > > > > > > > icon
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > button.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann
> > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
> > > > > > > > > > And a little video working for people couldent
> > > > > > > > > > compile.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very
> > > > > > > > > much!
> > > > > > > > > (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >  Maren
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier
> > > > > > > > > > Arraiza
> > > > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget
> > > > > > > > > > > dinamic.
> > > > > > > > > > > Currently
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > Spray Tool.
> > > > > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Feedback are welcome.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir
> > > > > > > > > > > Savic
> > > > > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we
> > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > > > watch
> > > > > > > > > > > > out that
> > > > > > > > > > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Vlada
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arraiza
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiz
> > > > > > > > > > > > a@...3326...
> > > > > > > > > > > > rk
> > > > > > > > > > > > er.es>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove
> > > > > > > > > > > > > widgets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > example,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > selected.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Savic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jabier,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > toolbox.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > trivial to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > implement
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > solutions:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similar
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > path
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tool
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > modes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > settings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > change.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > example,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mash
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gradient
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erase
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > knife
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (similar
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > erase
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > currently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Width
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > slider,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knife
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > segmentos
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rectos,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > segmentos
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > names
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > screen. :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vlada
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arraiza
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @m
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > arke
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > r.es>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brynn
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ¿Is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enought
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toolbox pixels?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boolean
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operations,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > proyect
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this open path problem.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > path/boolean.  Several
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "mysteries"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solved by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that comment :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pixels".  Do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you  mean
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > room
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > icon/button?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > over my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > head?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brynn
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just
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