I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.

Just my .02

Cheers,
Josh

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.

I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments.
He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we
have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border
-dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the
button.

What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?

Cheers, Jabier.


El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
> Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
> > And a little video working for people couldent compile.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ
>
> Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much!
> (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
>
> Regards,
>  Maren
>
> > Cheers, Jabier.
> >
> > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
> > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic.
> > > Currently
> > > in
> > > Spray Tool.
> > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
> > >
> > > Feedback are welcome.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > >
> > >
> > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
> > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really
> > > > watch
> > > > out that
> > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Vlada
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiz
> > > > a@...3326...
> > > > rk
> > > > er.es>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly
> > > > > from
> > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is
> > > > > selected.
> > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Jabier.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic
> > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > Hi Jabier,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox.
> > > > > > There
> > > > > > are,
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to
> > > > > > implement
> > > > > > solutions:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
> > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path
> > > > > > tool
> > > > > > modes
> > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that
> > > > > > change
> > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this change. For
> > > > > > example,
> > > > > > Mash
> > > > > > gradient
> > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > knife
> > > > > > (similar
> > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we
> > > > > > currently
> > > > > > have)
> > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at least Width
> > > > > > slider,
> > > > > > Knife
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos,
> > > > > > segmentos
> > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from
> > > > > > screen. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Vlada
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza
> > > > > > <jabier.arraiza
> > > > > > @m
> > > > > > arke
> > > > > > r.es>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió:
> > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought
> > > > > > > > interesant
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > toolbox pixels?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean
> > > > > > > > operations,
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect
> > > > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > on,
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > solve this open path problem.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open path/boolean.  Several
> > > > > > > > "mysteries"
> > > > > > > > solved by
> > > > > > > > that comment :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels".  Do
> > > > > > > > you  mean
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for
> > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > icon/button?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All best,
> > > > > > > > brynn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3311...
> > > > > > > > es>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM
> > > > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel"
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> > > > > > > > mentors & help with ideas page
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