Well, I somehow managed to send this twice to the user list. Sorry for newbieness.
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 6:20 PM To: "Inkscape Devel List" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; "Inkscape User Community" inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Release Marketing
Hi Friends, Well, I'm not sure I could point out parts of the previous release announcements that are a result of developers being too critical about their own work.
But since you asked, and since no one else has replied, I took a stab at it. For the items I specifically mentioned, it's because I understand those things from the release notes. There may be some more important things that you want to specify, that I didn't mention, simply because I didn't know quite how to word them.
Note that since I counted the new extensions (in the last sentence), I thought it would be interesting to say how many new filters there are. (just because that's something I'm looking forward to) But that's not in the release notes, that I found anyway. So if anyone knows, or can count the new filters, you can replace the "?? new filters" with the proper number. Or just delete that part.
So fwiw, it's attached in a text file. Please feel free to edit, as necessary. Or don't use it at all, if it's no good :-)
All best, brynn
From: "Josh Andler" <scislac@...400...> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 1:11 PM To: "Inkscape Devel List" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; "Inkscape User Community" inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] Release Marketing
Hi All,
I'm following up on Bryce's call for volunteers to help out with marketing. We need to have a release announcement prepared for Inkscape 0.91, and we're wanting to try having it prepared by someone who is not one of our developers this time. In case you're wondering why, it is one of the things taken away from Google's Mentor Summit this year. Simply, developers should not write things of that nature as they tend to be too critical of their own work.
If you're interested in seeing what we've had in the past, I've linked what was posted to deviantART for 0.48 [1], 0.47 [2], 0.46 [3].
Please let us know if you want to have a go at it (or just respond with a draft). Worst case, if nobody takes it on, I have prepared a version of it following the same formula from the past couple releases.
Cheers, Josh
[1] http://news.deviantart.com/article/126847/ [2] http://scislac.deviantart.com/journal/Inkscape-0-47-Released-214212648 [3] http://inkscape.deviantart.com/journal/Inkscape-0-46-Released-214165811
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Hi,
i was waiting for the meeting to discuss a point. I can translate into french. But reading the document i notice a problem.
Second me, all these documents are really code oriented. Who are the target of Inkscape : the artist ? Then i think we should creat some text, document marketing or example showing new feature, or pointing very good feature in Inkscape. Actually the first sentences are all oriented to the code, who is not attractiv for designer people.
Elisa
2014-12-08 9:36 GMT+01:00 Brynn <brynn@...3133...>:
Well, I somehow managed to send this twice to the user list. Sorry for newbieness.
From: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 6:20 PM To: "Inkscape Devel List" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; "Inkscape User Community" inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Release Marketing
Hi Friends,
Well, I'm not sure I could point out parts of the previous release announcements that are a result of developers being too critical about their own work.
But since you asked, and since no one else has replied, I took a stab at it. For the items I specifically mentioned, it's because I understand those things from the release notes. There may be some more important things that you want to specify, that I didn't mention, simply because I didn't know quite how to word them.
Note that since I counted the new extensions (in the last sentence), I thought it would be interesting to say how many new filters there are. (just because that's something I'm looking forward to) But that's not in the release notes, that I found anyway. So if anyone knows, or can count the new filters, you can replace the "?? new filters" with the proper number. Or just delete that part.
So fwiw, it's attached in a text file. Please feel free to edit, as necessary. Or don't use it at all, if it's no good :-)
All best, brynn
From: "Josh Andler" <scislac@...400...> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 1:11 PM To: "Inkscape Devel List" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; "Inkscape User Community" inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] Release Marketing
Hi All,
I'm following up on Bryce's call for volunteers to help out with marketing. We need to have a release announcement prepared for Inkscape 0.91, and we're wanting to try having it prepared by someone who is not one of our developers this time. In case you're wondering why, it is one of the things taken away from Google's Mentor Summit this year. Simply, developers should not write things of that nature as they tend to be too critical of their own work.
If you're interested in seeing what we've had in the past, I've linked what was posted to deviantART for 0.48 [1], 0.47 [2], 0.46 [3].
Please let us know if you want to have a go at it (or just respond with a draft). Worst case, if nobody takes it on, I have prepared a version of it following the same formula from the past couple releases.
Cheers, Josh
[1] http://news.deviantart.com/article/126847/ [2] http://scislac.deviantart.com/journal/Inkscape-0-47- Released-214212648 [3] http://inkscape.deviantart.com/journal/Inkscape-0-46-Released-214165811
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On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 09:51 +0100, Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra wrote:
Hi,
i was waiting for the meeting to discuss a point. I can translate into french. But reading the document i notice a problem.
Second me, all these documents are really code oriented. Who are the target of Inkscape : the artist ? Then i think we should creat some text, document marketing or example showing new feature, or pointing very good feature in Inkscape. Actually the first sentences are all oriented to the code, who is not attractiv for designer people.
Brynn, Thanks for taking the initiative on this.
I agree with Elisa that the press release must be targeted towards end-users. We developers already know the details.
I would re-order the paragraphs:
1. An introduction to Inkscape without the history.
"The Inkscape community is happy to announce the release of Inkscape 0.91. Inkscape is ...
See http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015#The_Pitch
2. New/Improved tools. Why are these important? What can the user do with the Measurement tool? What is the purpose of the Symbols dialog? It could be interesting to point out that it can read Visio symbol libraries. What is the purpose of the the Trace Pixel Art feature?
3. Newly supported file formats.
4. New extensions: highlight a few.
5. Performance improvements: Give numbers: rendering speed, memory use. You can briefly mention the Cairo library but most end-users won't know anything about Cairo and they won't care when and who did the work.
I would leave off filters. While new filters are always great, they probably are not of the same importance as the above.
The paragraph mentioning our 4 year gap can probably be excluded entirely. Let's not point out our failure to get the release done earlier.
Tav
To answer all of you at once. I based it on the 3 previous announcements which were offered as examples. And then I added some details which I thought Inkscape users would find interesting. I didn't try to make a major diversion from previous announcements.
I'm an Inkscape user. I know little to nothing about development or coding. If what I wrote sounds like it is from a developer's or coding perspective, it's because I based it on the 3 previous announcements which were referenced. And for details, I consulted the release notes -- also written by developers, I guess.
If the goal is to write something that most Inkscape users can understand, that's a whole different story than what the original message requested.
Also note that I don't know much about marketing either. If you want something that looks like marketing, I'm not your person.
I would leave off filters. While new filters are always great, they probably are not of the same importance as the above.
I wonder if that's more of a developer's perspective? As an Inkscape user, the new filters is one of the new things that I anticipate the most. And I know other users do too, because of comments I've seen in forums.
- Performance improvements: Give numbers: rendering speed, memory use.
Likewise as an Inkscape user, the new renderer seems to me like the highlight of the whole release! Inkscape users may know more than you think they do. I know this is a highly anticipated feature! Much more than the new Measurement tool and improvements to the other tools. I didn't include rendering speed and memory use, because as an Inkscape user, the numbers don't matter to me. What I see happening on the canvas is what matters.
The paragraph mentioning our 4 year gap can probably be excluded entirely. Let's not point out our failure to get the release done earlier.
Now THAT sounds like a developer being critical of his own work! I rather thought the 5 interim bug fix releases in only 4 years was impressive, plus a new major release to top it off!
Anyway, I'll try to write something that announces the new version to Inkscape users. But again, I don't know anything about marketing. So it will be just me, an Inkscape user and not much else, explaining the new version to other Inkscape users.
If anyone else wants to do this, they should go ahead. I was just trying to save you guys some extra work, and it looked like an easy thing to do. But it sounds like you want something quite different than what was presented, and I may not have the skills to do it, as far as marketing.
Anyway, thanks for your comments :-)
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Tavmjong Bah" <tavmjong@...8...> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 2:58 AM To: "Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra" <elisa.dcg@...400...> Cc: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] Release Marketing
On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 09:51 +0100, Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra wrote:
Hi,
i was waiting for the meeting to discuss a point. I can translate into french. But reading the document i notice a problem.
Second me, all these documents are really code oriented. Who are the target of Inkscape : the artist ? Then i think we should creat some text, document marketing or example showing new feature, or pointing very good feature in Inkscape. Actually the first sentences are all oriented to the code, who is not attractiv for designer people.
Brynn, Thanks for taking the initiative on this.
I agree with Elisa that the press release must be targeted towards end-users. We developers already know the details.
I would re-order the paragraphs:
- An introduction to Inkscape without the history.
"The Inkscape community is happy to announce the release of Inkscape 0.91. Inkscape is ...
See http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015#The_Pitch
- New/Improved tools. Why are these important? What can the user do
with the Measurement tool? What is the purpose of the Symbols dialog? It could be interesting to point out that it can read Visio symbol libraries. What is the purpose of the the Trace Pixel Art feature?
Newly supported file formats.
New extensions: highlight a few.
Performance improvements: Give numbers: rendering speed, memory use.
You can briefly mention the Cairo library but most end-users won't know anything about Cairo and they won't care when and who did the work.
I would leave off filters. While new filters are always great, they probably are not of the same importance as the above.
The paragraph mentioning our 4 year gap can probably be excluded entirely. Let's not point out our failure to get the release done earlier.
Tav
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