Hi everyone! After a few years using Inkscape I finally decided to get involved with their development.
I think that Inkscape it's the best alternative to Adobe Illustrator, but I feel like is needed a big upgrade, fundamentally on their interface that looks like very old and caotic.
Unfortunately, I'm a web developer, so I don't know how to code in C++ but I can develop the UI/UX design.
Is there someone hightly motivated to develop with me a nice update for 2019?
Marién
Welcome Mare Soria,
I'm a web developer too (I work on the inkscape.org website) and have been pushing the inkscape codebase slowly towards being more 'designable' i.e. giving the ability to change the user interface by using Glade XML (aka Gnome UI Builder) and our own xml files for things like menus, keyboard shortcuts etc.
Not everything is configurable, but it's in a better place now.
But to really get a handle on these new changes, you have to be running the current trunk version of Inkscape. Gtk3 and all. There's also the ability to change the Gtk CSS (it's not real css, it's just sort-of css) which can change the default look of the app.
Let me know when you get a working version of Inkscape trunk, it's due to become 1.0 after a few beta releases.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 11:54 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
Hi everyone! After a few years using Inkscape I finally decided to get involved with their development.
I think that Inkscape it's the best alternative to Adobe Illustrator, but I feel like is needed a big upgrade, fundamentally on their interface that looks like very old and caotic.
Unfortunately, I'm a web developer, so I don't know how to code in C++ but I can develop the UI/UX design.
Is there someone hightly motivated to develop with me a nice update for 2019?
Marién
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Hi Martin! Nice to meet you colleague! Yeap, I rebember that one time ago I try to change the interface on my desktop but was really difficult. I'll take a look to those new features you have implemented, maybe now become most easy for me. In any case I can develop the mockups for the new interface.
Can you tell me when plan to launch a new version?
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 12:38, <doctormo@...400...> escribió:
Welcome Mare Soria,
I'm a web developer too (I work on the inkscape.org website) and have been pushing the inkscape codebase slowly towards being more 'designable' i.e. giving the ability to change the user interface by using Glade XML (aka Gnome UI Builder) and our own xml files for things like menus, keyboard shortcuts etc.
Not everything is configurable, but it's in a better place now.
But to really get a handle on these new changes, you have to be running the current trunk version of Inkscape. Gtk3 and all. There's also the ability to change the Gtk CSS (it's not real css, it's just sort-of css) which can change the default look of the app.
Let me know when you get a working version of Inkscape trunk, it's due to become 1.0 after a few beta releases.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 11:54 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
Hi everyone! After a few years using Inkscape I finally decided to get involved with their development.
I think that Inkscape it's the best alternative to Adobe Illustrator, but I feel like is needed a big upgrade, fundamentally on their interface that looks like very old and caotic.
Unfortunately, I'm a web developer, so I don't know how to code in C++ but I can develop the UI/UX design.
Is there someone hightly motivated to develop with me a nice update for 2019?
Marién
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Hi Mare Soria,
Welcome!
I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely useful and powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if we could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on the project and maybe even create a small new project instead.
I was just wondering if we could gather graphic designers, icon makers and people of the same nature to design a dark ui theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms (because I Know this was already done in Linux). And we could redesign all of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is super pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of the dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.10.html
This would also address the new monitor resolutions that people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions).
What do you say?
--Victor Westmann
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are many! I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do that helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https://material.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline
I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment!
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann ( victor.westmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare Soria,
Welcome!
I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely useful and powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if we could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on the project and maybe even create a small new project instead.
I was just wondering if we could gather graphic designers, icon makers and people of the same nature to design a dark ui theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms (because I Know this was already done in Linux). And we could redesign all of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is super pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of the dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.10.html
This would also address the new monitor resolutions that people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions).
What do you say?
--Victor Westmann
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of the icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32 or 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...400...> wrote:
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are many! I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do that helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https://material.io/ tools/icons/?style=baseline
I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment!
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann ( victor.westmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare Soria,
Welcome!
I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely useful and powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if we could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on the project and maybe even create a small new project instead.
I was just wondering if we could gather graphic designers, icon makers and people of the same nature to design a dark ui theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms (because I Know this was already done in Linux). And we could redesign all of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is super pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of the dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release- notes/gimp-2.10.html
This would also address the new monitor resolutions that people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions).
What do you say?
--Victor Westmann
*"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons"* I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each designer, for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We need more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what are you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a good tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann ( victor.westmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of the icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32 or 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...400...> wrote:
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are many! I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do that helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https://material.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline
I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment!
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann ( victor.westmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare Soria,
Welcome!
I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely useful and powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if we could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on the project and maybe even create a small new project instead.
I was just wondering if we could gather graphic designers, icon makers and people of the same nature to design a dark ui theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms (because I Know this was already done in Linux). And we could redesign all of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is super pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of the dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.10.html
This would also address the new monitor resolutions that people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions).
What do you say?
--Victor Westmann
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.... With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each designer, for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We need more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what are you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a good tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann (victor.we stmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of the icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32 or 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...400...> wrote:
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are many! I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do that helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https://ma terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline
I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment!
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann (victo r.westmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare Soria,
Welcome!
I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely useful and powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if we could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on the project and maybe even create a small new project instead.
I was just wondering if we could gather graphic designers, icon makers and people of the same nature to design a dark ui theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms (because I Know this was already done in Linux). And we could redesign all of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is super pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of the dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gim p-2.10.html
This would also address the new monitor resolutions that people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions).
What do you say?
--Victor Westmann
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Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/ icons/symbolic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each designer, for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We need more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what are you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a good tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann (victor.we stmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of the icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32 or 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...400...> wrote:
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are many! I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do that helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https://ma terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline
I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment!
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann (victo r.westmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare Soria,
Welcome!
I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely useful and powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if we could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on the project and maybe even create a small new project instead.
I was just wondering if we could gather graphic designers, icon makers and people of the same nature to design a dark ui theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms (because I Know this was already done in Linux). And we could redesign all of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is super pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of the dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gim p-2.10.html
This would also address the new monitor resolutions that people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions).
What do you say?
--Victor Westmann
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Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3313... r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users. About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication. El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare, amazing! I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32
or
64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. Let me know what you think and how can I help! --Victor Westmann On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3348...
com>
wrote:
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https:
//ma
terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment! El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
r.westmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare Soria, Welcome! I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely useful
and
powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
project and maybe even create a small new project instead. I was just wondering if we could gather graphic designers, icon makers and people of the same nature to design a dark
ui
theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms (because
I
Know this was already done in Linux). And we could redesign
all
of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-notes
/gim
p-2.10.html This would also address the new monitor resolutions that people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). What do you say? --Victor Westmann
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Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3285... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32
or
64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3387... l.
com>
wrote:
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https:
//ma
terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline
I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment!
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > Hi Mare Soria, > > Welcome! > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > useful
and
> powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
> could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
> project and maybe even create a small new project > instead. > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > designers, > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > dark
ui
> theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > (because
I
> Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > redesign
all
> of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
> pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
> dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > es
/gim
> p-2.10.html > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > What do you say? > > > > > --Victor Westmann >
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Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/ tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3262...85... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32
or
64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3655...7... l.
com>
wrote: > I'm in my friend! > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
> I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
> helps me the free icons of Material Design by > Google. https:
//ma
> terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > can > contact me at any moment! > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
> r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > useful
and
> > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
> > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
> > project and maybe even create a small new project > > instead. > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > designers, > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > dark
ui
> > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > (because
I
> > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > redesign
all
> > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
> > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
> > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > es
/gim
> > p-2.10.html > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > >
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Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug17775 30/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/in kscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...837...285... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió: > Hi Mare, > > amazing! > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > more > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > the > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > of > this work first. > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
> icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > (32
or
> 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3365...87... > l.
com>
> wrote: > > I'm in my friend! > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
> > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
> > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > Google. https:
//ma
> > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > can > > contact me at any moment! > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
> > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > useful
and
> > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
> > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
> > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > instead. > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > designers, > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > dark
ui
> > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > (because
I
> > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > redesign
all
> > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
> > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
> > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > es
/gim
> > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > >
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Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/t... )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons....) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote:
Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...360...3285... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > more > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > icons" > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer, > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > We
need > more interaction with our users. > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > what
are > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good > tool to share designs ideas! > Please, explain me with words you idea. > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > design > comunication. > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we > stmann@...400...) escribió: > > Hi Mare, > > > > amazing! > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > more > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > the > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > of > > this work first. > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > (32
or > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...837...387... > > l.
com> > > wrote: > > > I'm in my friend! > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many! > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > Google. https:
//ma > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > can > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo > > > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > useful
and > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > designers, > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > dark
ui > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > (because
I > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > redesign
all > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > es
/gim > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/t... )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons....) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3285... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32
or
64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3387... l.
com>
wrote:
I'm in my friend! Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
helps me the free icons of Material Design by Google. https:
//ma
terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline
I just start work around the new interface structure. You can contact me at any moment!
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > Hi Mare Soria, > > Welcome! > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > useful
and
> powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
> could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
> project and maybe even create a small new project > instead. > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > designers, > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > dark
ui
> theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > (because
I
> Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > redesign
all
> of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
> pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
> dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > es
/gim
> p-2.10.html > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > What do you say? > > > > > --Victor Westmann >
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Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html.
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...1063....> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug17775 30/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/in kscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3659...5... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió:
Hi Mare,
amazing!
I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts of this work first. I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
icons that are used in the UI are stored in: %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed (32
or
64 bit) it should be in one of those two places:
32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg 64 bit >> C:\Program Files (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ
I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer.
Let me know what you think and how can I help!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3660...... l.
com>
wrote: > I'm in my friend! > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
> I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
> helps me the free icons of Material Design by > Google. https:
//ma
> terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > can > contact me at any moment! > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
> r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > useful
and
> > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
> > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
> > project and maybe even create a small new project > > instead. > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > designers, > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > dark
ui
> > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > (because
I
> > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > redesign
all
> > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
> > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
> > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > es
/gim
> > p-2.10.html > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > >
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Ah, and not to forget about https://github.com/PIWEEK/rethinkscape, where a whole group of people worked on improving the UI. I just wonder, instead of reinventing the wheel, maybe you should build on the existing work.
Sebastian
On 5 July 2018 at 21:52, Sebastian Zartner <sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html.
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...972.....> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug17775 30/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons /symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3262...85... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió: > Hi Mare, > > amazing! > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > more > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > the > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > of > this work first. > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
> icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > (32
or
> 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3655...7... > l.
com>
> wrote: > > I'm in my friend! > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
> > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
> > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > Google. https:
//ma
> > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > can > > contact me at any moment! > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
> > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > useful
and
> > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
> > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
> > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > instead. > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > designers, > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > dark
ui
> > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > (because
I
> > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > redesign
all
> > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
> > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
> > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > es
/gim
> > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > >
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Hi Sebastian,
The link you sent is, surprisingly enough, even more awesome than the previous one (which raised the bar a LOT already). Thank you for sharing this. This is really precious!
You are right. We should first try to understand what can be done, measures efforts, and, as a last step, act on it. Thanks for opening my eyes.
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Sebastian Zartner < sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Ah, and not to forget about https://github.com/PIWEEK/rethinkscape, where a whole group of people worked on improving the UI. I just wonder, instead of reinventing the wheel, maybe you should build on the existing work.
Sebastian
On 5 July 2018 at 21:52, Sebastian Zartner <sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html.
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...2179......> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug17775 30/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons /symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...837...285... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > more > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > icons" > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer, > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > We
need > more interaction with our users. > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > what
are > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good > tool to share designs ideas! > Please, explain me with words you idea. > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > design > comunication. > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we > stmann@...400...) escribió: > > Hi Mare, > > > > amazing! > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > more > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > the > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > of > > this work first. > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > (32
or > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3365...87... > > l.
com> > > wrote: > > > I'm in my friend! > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many! > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > Google. https:
//ma > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > can > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo > > > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > useful
and > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > designers, > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > dark
ui > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > (because
I > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > redesign
all > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > es
/gim > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing.
Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link?
Or us it just a proposal of a new theme?
Awesome work! Really impressive.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, <sebastianzartner@...1063....> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html.
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...972.....> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/t... )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons....) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3262...85... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote:
"I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather more people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the icons" I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer,
for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. We
need
more interaction with our users.
About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out what
are
you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good
tool to share designs ideas! Please, explain me with words you idea. I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our design comunication.
El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we
stmann@...400...) escribió: > Hi Mare, > > amazing! > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > more > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > the > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > of > this work first. > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the
> icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > (32
or
> 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3655...7... > l.
com>
> wrote: > > I'm in my friend! > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many!
> > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that
> > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > Google. https:
//ma
> > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > can > > contact me at any moment! > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo
> > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > useful
and
> > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we
> > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the
> > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > instead. > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > designers, > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > dark
ui
> > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > (because
I
> > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > redesign
all
> > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super
> > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the
> > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > es
/gim
> > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > >
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Hi,
There has been many attempts to design a better UX/UI with amazing theme proposals, that probably will never be implemented. This is a long time complaint of many inkscape users and I strongly agree that has to be improved.
Said that, I think that the only way to accomplish this is to become an active community member, learn from the current team, understand the project and what can/can't be done and join forces to improve it in the future.
Sometime just throwing designs (and I did it in the past) will be frustrating for both the designers and developers.
Just saying, we need to be empathetic. :) UI will only improve if more designers join this team and join forces with current developers.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing.
Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link?
Or us it just a proposal of a new theme?
Awesome work! Really impressive.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, < sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html.
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...2179......> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/t... )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons....) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...837...285... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > more > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > icons" > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer, > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > We
need > more interaction with our users. > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > what
are > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good > tool to share designs ideas! > Please, explain me with words you idea. > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > design > comunication. > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we > stmann@...400...) escribió: > > Hi Mare, > > > > amazing! > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > more > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > the > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > of > > this work first. > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > (32
or > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3365...87... > > l.
com> > > wrote: > > > I'm in my friend! > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many! > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > Google. https:
//ma > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > can > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo > > > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > useful
and > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > designers, > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > dark
ui > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > (because
I > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > redesign
all > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > es
/gim > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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Well stated Xaviju!
The solution to "it's hard to change the design because it requires a rebuild/developer deep knowledge" is "do not require a rebuild".
So then, doesn't the following make sense?
- Focus dev efforts on making the inkscape source code less "hard coded" and more "configurable" - Consequence: allow designers to rethink/test and iterative new designs without the burden of nagging devs to implement change in code
For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits:
- icon set to use - toolbar content (tool sets) - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I think this work is already underway, right Tav?) - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures
* To begin with, it is enough if a restart of Inkscape is needed to see changes. * Then, having a "reload config" button in preferences or somewhere, makes iteration quicker. * With time, detecting modifications to the config files triggering a refresh would make it very easy to modify UI on the fly, but hardly required to design things.
The current approach of "design task forces" will keep failing on it being so hard to implement the proposed design in the project, that no developer is willing to do it...
My 2 cents. Have a great weekend and keep on pushing Inkscape forward!
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 22:21, Xaviju Julián <xaviju@...400...> wrote:
Hi,
There has been many attempts to design a better UX/UI with amazing theme proposals, that probably will never be implemented. This is a long time complaint of many inkscape users and I strongly agree that has to be improved.
Said that, I think that the only way to accomplish this is to become an active community member, learn from the current team, understand the project and what can/can't be done and join forces to improve it in the future.
Sometime just throwing designs (and I did it in the past) will be frustrating for both the designers and developers.
Just saying, we need to be empathetic. :) UI will only improve if more designers join this team and join forces with current developers.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...1063....> wrote:
Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing.
Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link?
Or us it just a proposal of a new theme?
Awesome work! Really impressive.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, < sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html .
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...847...0...> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/t... )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons....) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...360...3285... ke r.es> wrote: > We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. > You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the > file > in this link. > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb > ol > ic_icons.svg > With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui > the icons (more suitable to be white UI) > > Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet. > > Regards. > > > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > more > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > > icons" > > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each > > designer, > > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > > We > > need > > more interaction with our users. > > > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > > what > > are > > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a > > good > > tool to share designs ideas! > > Please, explain me with words you idea. > > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > > design > > comunication. > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann > > (victor.we > > stmann@...400...) escribió: > > > Hi Mare, > > > > > > amazing! > > > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > more > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > > the > > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > > of > > > this work first. > > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of > > the > > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > > (32 > > or > > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...837...387... > > > l. > > com> > > > wrote: > > > > I'm in my friend! > > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are > > many! > > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do > > that > > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > > Google. https: > > //ma > > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > > can > > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann > > (victo > > > > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > > useful > > and > > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if > > we > > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on > > the > > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > > designers, > > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > > dark > > ui > > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > > (because > > I > > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > > redesign > > all > > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is > > super > > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of > > the > > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > > es > > /gim > > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > ----------- > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
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Am 05.07.2018 um 22:32 schrieb Olof Bjarnason:
Well stated Xaviju!
The solution to "it's hard to change the design because it requires a rebuild/developer deep knowledge" is "do not require a rebuild".
So then, doesn't the following make sense?
- Focus dev efforts on making the inkscape source code less "hard coded"
and more "configurable"
- Consequence: allow designers to rethink/test and iterative new designs
without the burden of nagging devs to implement change in code
- It's already happening. It's not the main focus, though, currently, as there's a lot that needs focussing ;-)
For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits:
- icon set to use
- toolbar content (tool sets)
- These are already configurable. Icon sets can be selected by the user for as long as I know Inkscape (it's just an svg file, or now, in master, a set of those). Toolbar content is configurable to some extent (one can remove tools, and change the order, basically) since Martin worked on it during one of the previous hackfests (these are configurable via XML-based files). That change is only available in the master/development branch.
- toolbar layout (toolbar positioning)
- Yep. Currently, there's just a limited set of choices for that.
- text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I
think this work is already underway, right Tav?)
- Isn't this a themeing thing, and would belong into the OS theme rather than in the application? This is already configurable via OS theme, and on Windows, I think it's even per-app configurable (gtkrc file). On Linux, I think that's possible, too, but I don't know how.
As far as I know, Tav is working on the text in the drawings you make with Inkscape, not on themeing.
- ... add more as the configuration "system" matures
- To begin with, it is enough if a restart of Inkscape is needed to see
changes.
- Then, having a "reload config" button in preferences or somewhere,
makes iteration quicker.
- With time, detecting modifications to the config files triggering a
refresh would make it very easy to modify UI on the fly, but hardly required to design things.
The current approach of "design task forces" will keep failing on it being so hard to implement the proposed design in the project, that no developer is willing to do it...
- Work has already begun on making Inkscape more configurable. I think it was the intention to allow designers (and anyone else) to use glade to design the interface.
For a truly configurable interface, however, there's a lot of infrastructure work to be done (this is what Alex has been working on, the conversion between the GAction(?) and GtkAction(?) commands, which allows to have dialog elements be separate from the command they trigger when uses.
Only then can developers start to work on making the dialogs configurable.
After that, it needs some documentation (or the designers need to document as they go).
Then, designers can start.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dev, but this is what I understood :)
Maren
My 2 cents. Have a great weekend and keep on pushing Inkscape forward!
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 22:21, Xaviju Julián <xaviju@...400... mailto:xaviju@...400...> wrote:
Hi, There has been many attempts to design a better UX/UI with amazing theme proposals, that probably will never be implemented. This is a long time complaint of many inkscape users and I strongly agree that has to be improved. Said that, I think that the only way to accomplish this is to become an active community member, learn from the current team, understand the project and what can/can't be done and join forces to improve it in the future. Sometime just throwing designs (and I did it in the past) will be frustrating for both the designers and developers. Just saying, we need to be empathetic. :) UI will only improve if more designers join this team and join forces with current developers. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> wrote: Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing. Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link? Or us it just a proposal of a new theme? Awesome work! Really impressive. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, <sebastianzartner@...400... <mailto:sebastianzartner@...400...>> wrote: Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html. Sebastian On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133... <mailto:brynn@...3133...>> wrote: Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX). If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible. I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming. Welcome to the community, Mare! (fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ). All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person. Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it. Do we have a twitter or facebook page? Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think? El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> escribió: Hi Everyone, Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3? What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question. And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG? Thanks! --Victor Westmann On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> wrote: Hi All, How is everyone doing today? ;-) Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work. Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons? As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing... Thanks everyone for the assistance so far! --Victor Westmann On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400... <mailto:doctormo@...400...>> wrote: Dear All! I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them. So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote: Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons. I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available. Regards, Jabier. On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote: > Hi Jabier, > > This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it? > > Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we > can > use in Inkscape? > > So for now we have > > default icons > tango icons > symbolic icons > > Am I missing any other one? > If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to > become an option inside of the application ;-) > > Regards, > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3285... > ke > r.es <http://r.es>> wrote: > > We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. > > You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the > > file > > in this link. > > > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb > > ol > > ic_icons.svg > > With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui > > the icons (more suitable to be white UI) > > > > Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > > > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > more > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > > > icons" > > > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each > > > > designer, > > > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > > > We > > > > need > > > more interaction with our users. > > > > > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > > > what > > > > are > > > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a > > > > good > > > tool to share designs ideas! > > > Please, explain me with words you idea. > > > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > > > design > > > comunication. > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann > > > > (victor.we > > > stmann@...400... <mailto:stmann@...400...>) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare, > > > > > > > > amazing! > > > > > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > > more > > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > > > the > > > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > > > of > > > > this work first. > > > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of > > > > the > > > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > > > (32 > > > > or > > > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3387... > > > > l. > > > > com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm in my friend! > > > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are > > > > many! > > > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do > > > > that > > > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > > > Google. https: > > > > //ma > > > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline <http://terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline> > > > > > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > > > can > > > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann > > > > (victo > > > > > r.westmann@...400... <mailto:r.westmann@...400...>) escribió: > > > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > > > useful > > > > and > > > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if > > > > we > > > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on > > > > the > > > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > > > designers, > > > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > > > dark > > > > ui > > > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > > > (because > > > > I > > > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > > > redesign > > > > all > > > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is > > > > super > > > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of > > > > the > > > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > > > es > > > > /gim > > > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---- > > > ----------- > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
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Hi Olof,
Really good observations. I was just wondering if we have any UI/UX redesign/refresh in our roadmap... do you guys know if this is feasible for 1.2 (or even 1.3 version)?
To be quite honest I am not too sure on how the icons work (besides having the file icons.svg inside the %inkscape%\share\icons\ I don't know how else to change this or how to work on theming icons.
The links sent previously are awesome and make me now feel pretentious to redesign the UI once this was aleady done and super nicely done BTW. :)
So now I don't know what to do on the icons/UI part of the application.
Let me know if you guys have more interesting ideas. I will bookmark the links sent previously.
[1] https://github.com/PIWEEK/rethinkscape, [2] http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Olof Bjarnason <olof.bjarnason@...400...> wrote:
Well stated Xaviju!
The solution to "it's hard to change the design because it requires a rebuild/developer deep knowledge" is "do not require a rebuild".
So then, doesn't the following make sense?
- Focus dev efforts on making the inkscape source code less "hard coded"
and more "configurable"
- Consequence: allow designers to rethink/test and iterative new designs
without the burden of nagging devs to implement change in code
For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits:
- icon set to use
- toolbar content (tool sets)
- toolbar layout (toolbar positioning)
- text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I
think this work is already underway, right Tav?)
- ... add more as the configuration "system" matures
- To begin with, it is enough if a restart of Inkscape is needed to see
changes.
- Then, having a "reload config" button in preferences or somewhere, makes
iteration quicker.
- With time, detecting modifications to the config files triggering a
refresh would make it very easy to modify UI on the fly, but hardly required to design things.
The current approach of "design task forces" will keep failing on it being so hard to implement the proposed design in the project, that no developer is willing to do it...
My 2 cents. Have a great weekend and keep on pushing Inkscape forward!
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 22:21, Xaviju Julián <xaviju@...400...> wrote:
Hi,
There has been many attempts to design a better UX/UI with amazing theme proposals, that probably will never be implemented. This is a long time complaint of many inkscape users and I strongly agree that has to be improved.
Said that, I think that the only way to accomplish this is to become an active community member, learn from the current team, understand the project and what can/can't be done and join forces to improve it in the future.
Sometime just throwing designs (and I did it in the past) will be frustrating for both the designers and developers.
Just saying, we need to be empathetic. :) UI will only improve if more designers join this team and join forces with current developers.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing.
Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link?
Or us it just a proposal of a new theme?
Awesome work! Really impressive.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, < sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/ forInkscapeTeam.html.
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...1857...00...> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x. FixBug1777530/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/ icons/symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote: > Hi Jabier, > > This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it? > > Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we > can > use in Inkscape? > > So for now we have > > default icons > tango icons > symbolic icons > > Am I missing any other one? > If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to > become an option inside of the application ;-) > > Regards, > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...1761....3285... > ke > r.es> wrote: > > We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. > > You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the > > file > > in this link. > > > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb > > ol > > ic_icons.svg > > With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui > > the icons (more suitable to be white UI) > > > > Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > > > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > more > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > > > icons" > > > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each > > > > designer, > > > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > > > We > > > > need > > > more interaction with our users. > > > > > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > > > what > > > > are > > > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a > > > > good > > > tool to share designs ideas! > > > Please, explain me with words you idea. > > > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > > > design > > > comunication. > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann > > > > (victor.we > > > stmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare, > > > > > > > > amazing! > > > > > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > > more > > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > > > the > > > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > > > of > > > > this work first. > > > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of > > > > the > > > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > > > (32 > > > > or > > > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...360...3387... > > > > l. > > > > com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm in my friend! > > > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are > > > > many! > > > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do > > > > that > > > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > > > Google. https: > > > > //ma > > > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > > > can > > > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann > > > > (victo > > > > > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > > > useful > > > > and > > > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if > > > > we > > > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on > > > > the > > > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > > > designers, > > > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > > > dark > > > > ui > > > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > > > (because > > > > I > > > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > > > redesign > > > > all > > > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is > > > > super > > > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of > > > > the > > > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > > > es > > > > /gim > > > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---- > > > ----------- > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
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I got the impression that some of the work Alexius was doing at the Boston Hackfest to port us over to GTK3 for the 1.0 release would give us greater flexibility in the UI. We're losing users to less capable gratis tools because they are shinier and easier to use. We had talked about running a funded development campaign for the CMYK support. Looking ahead I wonder if this couldn't be a good follow-up to that. Bryce?
Ryan
On 07/05/2018 03:54 PM, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Olof,
Really good observations. I was just wondering if we have any UI/UX redesign/refresh in our roadmap... do you guys know if this is feasible for 1.2 (or even 1.3 version)?
To be quite honest I am not too sure on how the icons work (besides having the file icons.svg inside the %inkscape%\share\icons\ I don't know how else to change this or how to work on theming icons.
The links sent previously are awesome and make me now feel pretentious to redesign the UI once this was aleady done and super nicely done BTW. :)
So now I don't know what to do on the icons/UI part of the application.
Let me know if you guys have more interesting ideas. I will bookmark the links sent previously.
[1] https://github.com/PIWEEK/rethinkscape https://github.com/PIWEEK/rethinkscape, [2] http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Olof Bjarnason <olof.bjarnason@...400... mailto:olof.bjarnason@...400...> wrote:
Well stated Xaviju! The solution to "it's hard to change the design because it requires a rebuild/developer deep knowledge" is "do not require a rebuild". So then, doesn't the following make sense? - Focus dev efforts on making the inkscape source code less "hard coded" and more "configurable" - Consequence: allow designers to rethink/test and iterative new designs without the burden of nagging devs to implement change in code For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: - icon set to use - toolbar content (tool sets) - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I think this work is already underway, right Tav?) - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures * To begin with, it is enough if a restart of Inkscape is needed to see changes. * Then, having a "reload config" button in preferences or somewhere, makes iteration quicker. * With time, detecting modifications to the config files triggering a refresh would make it very easy to modify UI on the fly, but hardly required to design things. The current approach of "design task forces" will keep failing on it being so hard to implement the proposed design in the project, that no developer is willing to do it... My 2 cents. Have a great weekend and keep on pushing Inkscape forward! On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 22:21, Xaviju Julián <xaviju@...400... <mailto:xaviju@...400...>> wrote: Hi, There has been many attempts to design a better UX/UI with amazing theme proposals, that probably will never be implemented. This is a long time complaint of many inkscape users and I strongly agree that has to be improved. Said that, I think that the only way to accomplish this is to become an active community member, learn from the current team, understand the project and what can/can't be done and join forces to improve it in the future. Sometime just throwing designs (and I did it in the past) will be frustrating for both the designers and developers. Just saying, we need to be empathetic. :) UI will only improve if more designers join this team and join forces with current developers. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> wrote: Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing. Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link? Or us it just a proposal of a new theme? Awesome work! Really impressive. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, <sebastianzartner@...400... <mailto:sebastianzartner@...400...>> wrote: Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html <http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html>. Sebastian On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133... <mailto:brynn@...3133...>> wrote: Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX). If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible. I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming. Welcome to the community, Mare! (fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ). All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person. Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it. Do we have a twitter or facebook page? Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think? El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> escribió: Hi Everyone, Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3? What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question. And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG? Thanks! --Victor Westmann On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> wrote: Hi All, How is everyone doing today? ;-) Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/tango_icons.svg <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/tango_icons.svg> )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg>) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work. Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons? As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing... Thanks everyone for the assistance so far! --Victor Westmann On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400... <mailto:doctormo@...400...>> wrote: Dear All! I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them. So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote: Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons. I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available. Regards, Jabier. On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote: > Hi Jabier, > > This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it? > > Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we > can > use in Inkscape? > > So for now we have > > default icons > tango icons > symbolic icons > > Am I missing any other one? > If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to > become an option inside of the application ;-) > > Regards, > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3285... > ke > r.es <http://r.es>> wrote: > > We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. > > You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the > > file > > in this link. > > > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb> > > ol > > ic_icons.svg > > With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui > > the icons (more suitable to be white UI) > > > > Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > > > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > more > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > > > icons" > > > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each > > > > designer, > > > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > > > We > > > > need > > > more interaction with our users. > > > > > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > > > what > > > > are > > > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a > > > > good > > > tool to share designs ideas! > > > Please, explain me with words you idea. > > > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > > > design > > > comunication. > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann > > > > (victor.we > > > stmann@...400... <mailto:stmann@...400...>) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare, > > > > > > > > amazing! > > > > > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > > more > > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > > > the > > > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > > > of > > > > this work first. > > > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of > > > > the > > > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > > > (32 > > > > or > > > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3387... > > > > l. > > > > com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm in my friend! > > > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are > > > > many! > > > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do > > > > that > > > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > > > Google. https: > > > > //ma > > > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline <http://terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline> > > > > > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > > > can > > > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann > > > > (victo > > > > > r.westmann@...400... <mailto:r.westmann@...400...>) escribió: > > > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > > > useful > > > > and > > > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if > > > > we > > > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on > > > > the > > > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > > > designers, > > > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > > > dark > > > > ui > > > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > > > (because > > > > I > > > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > > > redesign > > > > all > > > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. 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On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 04:22:19PM -0600, Ryan Gorley wrote:
I got the impression that some of the work Alexius was doing at the Boston Hackfest to port us over to GTK3 for the 1.0 release would give us greater flexibility in the UI. We're losing users to less capable gratis tools because they are shinier and easier to use. We had talked about running a funded development campaign for the CMYK support. Looking ahead I wonder if this couldn't be a good follow-up to that. Bryce?
Possibly, why don't you add an item on the Projects page in wiki for this, to hook it in with our overall planning?
There's been tons of volunteer interest in revamping the UI, what I gather we need is a strong vision document defining a plan for what the new UI should do.
Not necessarily mockups, but more of a listing of design deficiencies in the current UI. What are the specific problems needing solved?
I'd suggest creating a wiki page to gather the links people have been bringing up, and to collect brainstorming thoughts for design/ui issues. Thoughts on cosmetic improvements would be good to collect too; those will be more subject to debate/bikeshedding, but worth collecting ideas at least.
It's probably also important to recognize that UI changes are by definition disruptive, and particularly when there is desire to make an interface more attractive to new users it runs a risk of alienating existing users. Having this list of issues will help a lot at making sure changes are well justified.
Bryce
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On 07/05/2018 03:54 PM, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Olof,
Really good observations. I was just wondering if we have any UI/UX redesign/refresh in our roadmap... do you guys know if this is feasible for 1.2 (or even 1.3 version)?
To be quite honest I am not too sure on how the icons work (besides having the file icons.svg inside the %inkscape%\share\icons\ I don't know how else to change this or how to work on theming icons.
The links sent previously are awesome and make me now feel pretentious to redesign the UI once this was aleady done and super nicely done BTW. :)
So now I don't know what to do on the icons/UI part of the application.
Let me know if you guys have more interesting ideas. I will bookmark the links sent previously.
[1] https://github.com/PIWEEK/rethinkscape https://github.com/PIWEEK/rethinkscape, [2] http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Olof Bjarnason <olof.bjarnason@...400... mailto:olof.bjarnason@...400...> wrote:
Well stated Xaviju! The solution to "it's hard to change the design because it requires a rebuild/developer deep knowledge" is "do not require a rebuild". So then, doesn't the following make sense? - Focus dev efforts on making the inkscape source code less "hard coded" and more "configurable" - Consequence: allow designers to rethink/test and iterative new designs without the burden of nagging devs to implement change in code For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: - icon set to use - toolbar content (tool sets) - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I think this work is already underway, right Tav?) - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures * To begin with, it is enough if a restart of Inkscape is needed to see changes. * Then, having a "reload config" button in preferences or somewhere, makes iteration quicker. * With time, detecting modifications to the config files triggering a refresh would make it very easy to modify UI on the fly, but hardly required to design things. The current approach of "design task forces" will keep failing on it being so hard to implement the proposed design in the project, that no developer is willing to do it... My 2 cents. Have a great weekend and keep on pushing Inkscape forward! On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 22:21, Xaviju Julián <xaviju@...400... <mailto:xaviju@...400...>> wrote: Hi, There has been many attempts to design a better UX/UI with amazing theme proposals, that probably will never be implemented. This is a long time complaint of many inkscape users and I strongly agree that has to be improved. Said that, I think that the only way to accomplish this is to become an active community member, learn from the current team, understand the project and what can/can't be done and join forces to improve it in the future. Sometime just throwing designs (and I did it in the past) will be frustrating for both the designers and developers. Just saying, we need to be empathetic. :) UI will only improve if more designers join this team and join forces with current developers. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> wrote: Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing. Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link? Or us it just a proposal of a new theme? Awesome work! Really impressive. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, <sebastianzartner@...400... <mailto:sebastianzartner@...400...>> wrote: Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html <http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html>. Sebastian On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133... <mailto:brynn@...3133...>> wrote: Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX). If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible. I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming. Welcome to the community, Mare! (fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ). All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person. Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it. Do we have a twitter or facebook page? Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think? El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> escribió: Hi Everyone, Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3? What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question. And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG? Thanks! --Victor Westmann On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400... <mailto:victor.westmann@...400...>> wrote: Hi All, How is everyone doing today? ;-) Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/tango_icons.svg <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug1777530/share/icons/tango_icons.svg> )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symbolic_icons.svg>) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work. Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons? As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing... Thanks everyone for the assistance so far! --Victor Westmann On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400... <mailto:doctormo@...400...>> wrote: Dear All! I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them. So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote: Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons. I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available. Regards, Jabier. On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote: > Hi Jabier, > > This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it? > > Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we > can > use in Inkscape? > > So for now we have > > default icons > tango icons > symbolic icons > > Am I missing any other one? > If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to > become an option inside of the application ;-) > > Regards, > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3285... > ke > r.es <http://r.es>> wrote: > > We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. > > You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the > > file > > in this link. > > > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb> > > ol > > ic_icons.svg > > With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui > > the icons (more suitable to be white UI) > > > > Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > > > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > more > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > > > icons" > > > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each > > > > designer, > > > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > > > We > > > > need > > > more interaction with our users. > > > > > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > > > what > > > > are > > > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a > > > > good > > > tool to share designs ideas! > > > Please, explain me with words you idea. > > > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > > > design > > > comunication. > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann > > > > (victor.we > > > stmann@...400... <mailto:stmann@...400...>) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare, > > > > > > > > amazing! > > > > > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > > more > > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > > > the > > > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > > > of > > > > this work first. > > > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of > > > > the > > > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > > > (32 > > > > or > > > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3387... > > > > l. > > > > com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm in my friend! > > > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are > > > > many! > > > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do > > > > that > > > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > > > Google. https: > > > > //ma > > > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline <http://terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline> > > > > > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > > > can > > > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann > > > > (victo > > > > > r.westmann@...400... <mailto:r.westmann@...400...>) escribió: > > > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > > > useful > > > > and > > > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if > > > > we > > > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on > > > > the > > > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > > > designers, > > > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > > > dark > > > > ui > > > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > > > (because > > > > I > > > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > > > redesign > > > > all > > > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is > > > > super > > > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of > > > > the > > > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not <https://www.gimp.org/release-not> > > > > > > es > > > > /gim > > > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---- > > > ----------- > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel> ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ <http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________> Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel>
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(Oh crap, I just saw that called Alex by the wrong name. I was communicating with a guy in Brazil named Alexius, my brain short circuited. Sorry!)
Ryan
On 07/06/2018 11:00 AM, Bryce Harrington wrote:
I got the impression that some of the work Alexius was doing at the Boston Hackfest to port us over to GTK3 for the 1.0 release would give us greater flexibility in the UI.
Thanks Xaviju !
For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits:
The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples,
- icon set to use
gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev ?)
- toolbar content (tool sets)
XML (depends)[3]
- toolbar layout (toolbar positioning)
Glade (not yet)[4]
- text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I
think this work is already underway, right Tav?)
CSS[5]
- ... add more as the configuration "system" matures
Hi everyone,
So I guess what I could do to help the project at the moment would be to translate the PO files for the PT_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) for the next release? Would this be helpful?
Let me know.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju !
For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits:
The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples,
- icon set to use
gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev ?)
- toolbar content (tool sets)
XML (depends)[3]
- toolbar layout (toolbar positioning)
Glade (not yet)[4]
- text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I
think this work is already underway, right Tav?)
CSS[5]
- ... add more as the configuration "system" matures
-- Marc
[1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html (to use in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css ) [2] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons /hicolor/scalable/actions [3] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/se lect-toolbar.ui [4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, I should give it another try?) [5] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css
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Am 06.07.2018 um 05:57 schrieb Victor Westmann:
Hi everyone,
So I guess what I could do to help the project at the moment would be to translate the PO files for the PT_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) for the next release? Would this be helpful?
- Yes, indeed that would be helpful.
PT_BR seems to be only translated at a meagre 48 % (for inkscape-docs plus Inkscape program).
Here's info on where to find the various po files: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/translations/#translatable-content
Maren
Let me know.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062... mailto:marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju ! > For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through > .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples, > - icon set to use gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev ?) > - toolbar content (tool sets) XML (depends)[3] > - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) Glade (not yet)[4] > - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I > think this work is already underway, right Tav?) CSS[5] > - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures -- Marc [1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html <https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html> (to use in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css> ) [2] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions> [3] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui> [4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, I should give it another try?) [5] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel>
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Thanks Marc and Olof,
Designers: what else than the information given by Marc do you need to
get started actually implementing UX improvements...? Are you able to understand what you need to do?
I guess for most of the designers some of this technologies are just far away. Even more if the have to figure out by themselves where and how to start. What about some basic onboarding process or mentorship for people willing to contribute to the Inkscape interface? Is there already something like that? Will somebody be interested in doing that introduction? Is just a crazy idea?
Xavi
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:44 PM Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote:
Am 06.07.2018 um 05:57 schrieb Victor Westmann:
Hi everyone,
So I guess what I could do to help the project at the moment would be to translate the PO files for the PT_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) for the next release? Would this be helpful?
- Yes, indeed that would be helpful.
PT_BR seems to be only translated at a meagre 48 % (for inkscape-docs plus Inkscape program).
Here's info on where to find the various po files: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/translations/#translatable-content
Maren
Let me know.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062... mailto:marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju ! > For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurablethrough
> .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples, > - icon set to use gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev?)
> - toolbar content (tool sets) XML (depends)[3] > - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) Glade (not yet)[4] > - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similarsyntax" (I
> think this work is already underway, right Tav?) CSS[5] > - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures -- Marc [1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html <https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html>(to use
in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css>)
[2]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
[3]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
[4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, I shouldgive
it another try?) [5] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css
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Hi Xaviju,
I was even discussing with Marién, who is the author of this thread originally, and I was thinking if it is too crazy or too much work to license this work in a way that it could also be reused by Scribus/Audacity folks as well... those are other nice programs that also suffer from not-so-good-looking-UI-despite the really useful features. Like OpenToolbars. Or something...
If this idea is too broad or too much hassle we can focus exclusively on Inkscape.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 4:36 AM Xaviju Julián, <xaviju@...400...> wrote:
Thanks Marc and Olof,
Designers: what else than the information given by Marc do you need to
get started actually implementing UX improvements...? Are you able to understand what you need to do?
I guess for most of the designers some of this technologies are just far away. Even more if the have to figure out by themselves where and how to start. What about some basic onboarding process or mentorship for people willing to contribute to the Inkscape interface? Is there already something like that? Will somebody be interested in doing that introduction? Is just a crazy idea?
Xavi
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:44 PM Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote:
Am 06.07.2018 um 05:57 schrieb Victor Westmann:
Hi everyone,
So I guess what I could do to help the project at the moment would be to translate the PO files for the PT_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) for the next release? Would this be helpful?
- Yes, indeed that would be helpful.
PT_BR seems to be only translated at a meagre 48 % (for inkscape-docs plus Inkscape program).
Here's info on where to find the various po files: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/translations/#translatable-content
Maren
Let me know.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062... mailto:marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju ! > For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurablethrough
> .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples, > - icon set to use gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev?)
> - toolbar content (tool sets) XML (depends)[3] > - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) Glade (not yet)[4] > - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similarsyntax" (I
> think this work is already underway, right Tav?) CSS[5] > - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures -- Marc [1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html <https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html>(to use
in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css%3E )
[2]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
[3]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
[4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, I shouldgive
it another try?) [5] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css%3E
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Hi all, I have not been able to contribute just yet, but I still plan to dive in to help with Mac version and as I am a ux designer would also be happy to chime in on any ux/ui matters too.
Best, Rodney Little
2018/07/06 8:42、Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...>のメール:
Hi Xaviju,
I was even discussing with Marién, who is the author of this thread originally, and I was thinking if it is too crazy or too much work to license this work in a way that it could also be reused by Scribus/Audacity folks as well... those are other nice programs that also suffer from not-so-good-looking-UI-despite the really useful features. Like OpenToolbars. Or something...
If this idea is too broad or too much hassle we can focus exclusively on Inkscape.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 4:36 AM Xaviju Julián, <xaviju@...400...> wrote: Thanks Marc and Olof,
Designers: what else than the information given by Marc do you need to get started actually implementing UX improvements...? Are you able to understand what you need to do?
I guess for most of the designers some of this technologies are just far away. Even more if the have to figure out by themselves where and how to start. What about some basic onboarding process or mentorship for people willing to contribute to the Inkscape interface? Is there already something like that? Will somebody be interested in doing that introduction? Is just a crazy idea?
Xavi
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:44 PM Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote: Am 06.07.2018 um 05:57 schrieb Victor Westmann:
Hi everyone,
So I guess what I could do to help the project at the moment would be to translate the PO files for the PT_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) for the next release? Would this be helpful?
- Yes, indeed that would be helpful.
PT_BR seems to be only translated at a meagre 48 % (for inkscape-docs plus Inkscape program).
Here's info on where to find the various po files: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/translations/#translatable-content
Maren
Let me know.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062... mailto:marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju ! > For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through > .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples, > - icon set to use gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev ?) > - toolbar content (tool sets) XML (depends)[3] > - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) Glade (not yet)[4] > - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I > think this work is already underway, right Tav?) CSS[5] > - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures -- Marc [1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html <https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html> (to use in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css> ) [2] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions> [3] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui> [4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, I should give it another try?) [5] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel>
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Hi guys! Excuse my silence these days. I'm moving to another country, and it's been crazy weeks. The next weekend I'll be able to analyze the core changes that Martin told me, and how I am a web developer, maybe, it's not will so hard for me develop the new UI/UX.
El vie., 6 de jul. de 2018 a la(s) 16:08, Rodney Little ( rodney@...3650...) escribió:
Hi all, I have not been able to contribute just yet, but I still plan to dive in to help with Mac version and as I am a ux designer would also be happy to chime in on any ux/ui matters too.
Best, Rodney Little
2018/07/06 8:42、Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...>のメール:
Hi Xaviju,
I was even discussing with Marién, who is the author of this thread originally, and I was thinking if it is too crazy or too much work to license this work in a way that it could also be reused by Scribus/Audacity folks as well... those are other nice programs that also suffer from not-so-good-looking-UI-despite the really useful features. Like OpenToolbars. Or something...
If this idea is too broad or too much hassle we can focus exclusively on Inkscape.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 4:36 AM Xaviju Julián, <xaviju@...400...> wrote:
Thanks Marc and Olof,
Designers: what else than the information given by Marc do you need to
get started actually implementing UX improvements...? Are you able to understand what you need to do?
I guess for most of the designers some of this technologies are just far away. Even more if the have to figure out by themselves where and how to start. What about some basic onboarding process or mentorship for people willing to contribute to the Inkscape interface? Is there already something like that? Will somebody be interested in doing that introduction? Is just a crazy idea?
Xavi
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:44 PM Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote:
Am 06.07.2018 um 05:57 schrieb Victor Westmann:
Hi everyone,
So I guess what I could do to help the project at the moment would be
to
translate the PO files for the PT_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) for the
next
release? Would this be helpful?
- Yes, indeed that would be helpful.
PT_BR seems to be only translated at a meagre 48 % (for inkscape-docs plus Inkscape program).
Here's info on where to find the various po files: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/translations/#translatable-content
Maren
Let me know.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062... mailto:marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju ! > For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurablethrough
> .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples, > - icon set to use gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work indev ?)
> - toolbar content (tool sets) XML (depends)[3] > - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) Glade (not yet)[4] > - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similarsyntax" (I
> think this work is already underway, right Tav?) CSS[5] > - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures -- Marc [1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html <https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html>(to use
inhttps://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css%3E )
[2]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
[3]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
[4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, Ishould give
it another try?) [5]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css%3E
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Hi Mare.
Maybe this are good news to you.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/294
Regards, Jabier.
Amazing Jabier, start to look really good! Thanks for your job! I'm still organizing my life in a new country, very soon I'll start work around it!
El dom., 22 de jul. de 2018 a la(s) 18:11, Jabier Arraiza ( jabier.arraiza@...2893...) escribió:
Hi Mare.
Maybe this are good news to you.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/294
Regards, Jabier.
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Hi Jabier, thank you so much for your work! It is starting to look really beautiful and promising!
I am pretty sure that once your work is done and the icons/themes can be activated this will make it even more pleasureful to use Inkscape and it will attract even more users! ;-)
--Victor Westmann
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Hi Mare.
Maybe this are good news to you.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/294
Regards, Jabier.
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Thanks Victor for the feedback
-----Original Message----- From: Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...> To: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Cc: Mare Soria <mare.soria@...400...>, Inkscape-Devel <inkscape-devel@...3243...93... ists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 00:09:02 -0700
Hi Jabier, thank you so much for your work! It is starting to look really beautiful and promising!
I am pretty sure that once your work is done and the icons/themes can be activated this will make it even more pleasureful to use Inkscape and it will attract even more users! ;-)
--Victor Westmann
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Hi Mare.
Maybe this are good news to you.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/294
Regards, Jabier.
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Hi Maren, so it will be done! I believe that I was the one that raised that number for the last time. :)
Regards?
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 3:44 AM Maren Hachmann, <maren@...3165...> wrote:
Am 06.07.2018 um 05:57 schrieb Victor Westmann:
Hi everyone,
So I guess what I could do to help the project at the moment would be to translate the PO files for the PT_BR (Brazilian Portuguese) for the next release? Would this be helpful?
- Yes, indeed that would be helpful.
PT_BR seems to be only translated at a meagre 48 % (for inkscape-docs plus Inkscape program).
Here's info on where to find the various po files: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/translations/#translatable-content
Maren
Let me know.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062... mailto:marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju ! > For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurablethrough
> .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits: The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples, > - icon set to use gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev?)
> - toolbar content (tool sets) XML (depends)[3] > - toolbar layout (toolbar positioning) Glade (not yet)[4] > - text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similarsyntax" (I
> think this work is already underway, right Tav?) CSS[5] > - ... add more as the configuration "system" matures -- Marc [1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html <https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html>(to use
in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css>)
[2]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl...
[3]https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui
[4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, I shouldgive
it another try?) [5] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css
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That sounds great ...
Designers: what else than the information given by Marc do you need to get started actually implementing UX improvements...? Are you able to understand what you need to do?
/Olof
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 01:15, Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3062...> wrote:
Thanks Xaviju !
For example, make the following aspects of the UI configurable through .json, .xml, .yaml or whatever fits:
The techs that are/will/should_probably_be used are, with examples,
- icon set to use
gtk prefs, CSS[1], and FDO icon sets[2](should probably work in dev ?)
- toolbar content (tool sets)
XML (depends)[3]
- toolbar layout (toolbar positioning)
Glade (not yet)[4]
- text looks (font choice, size, style etc) via "CSS similar syntax" (I
think this work is already underway, right Tav?)
CSS[5]
- ... add more as the configuration "system" matures
-- Marc
[1] -gtk-icon-theme, cf https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html (to use in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css ) [2]
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/share/icons/hicolor/scalabl... [3] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/select-toolbar.ui [4] https://glade.gnome.org/ (maybe it's more stable now, I should give it another try?) [5] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/share/ui/style.css
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Hi Xaviju,
Makes 100% sense. Thank you for this.
--Victor Westmann
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Xaviju Julián <xaviju@...400...> wrote:
Hi,
There has been many attempts to design a better UX/UI with amazing theme proposals, that probably will never be implemented. This is a long time complaint of many inkscape users and I strongly agree that has to be improved.
Said that, I think that the only way to accomplish this is to become an active community member, learn from the current team, understand the project and what can/can't be done and join forces to improve it in the future.
Sometime just throwing designs (and I did it in the past) will be frustrating for both the designers and developers.
Just saying, we need to be empathetic. :) UI will only improve if more designers join this team and join forces with current developers.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:03 PM Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...1063....> wrote:
Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing.
Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link?
Or us it just a proposal of a new theme?
Awesome work! Really impressive.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, < sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html .
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...847...0...> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x. FixBug1777530/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/ icons/symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...360...3285... ke r.es> wrote: > We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. > You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the > file > in this link. > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb > ol > ic_icons.svg > With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui > the icons (more suitable to be white UI) > > Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet. > > Regards. > > > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > more > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > > icons" > > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each > > designer, > > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > > We > > need > > more interaction with our users. > > > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > > what > > are > > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a > > good > > tool to share designs ideas! > > Please, explain me with words you idea. > > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > > design > > comunication. > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann > > (victor.we > > stmann@...400...) escribió: > > > Hi Mare, > > > > > > amazing! > > > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > > more > > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > > the > > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > > of > > > this work first. > > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of > > the > > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > > (32 > > or > > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...837...387... > > > l. > > com> > > > wrote: > > > > I'm in my friend! > > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are > > many! > > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do > > that > > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > > Google. https: > > //ma > > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > > can > > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann > > (victo > > > > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > > useful > > and > > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if > > we > > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on > > the > > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > > designers, > > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > > dark > > ui > > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > > (because > > I > > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > > redesign > > all > > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is > > super > > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of > > the > > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > > es > > /gim > > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > ----------- > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel
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I skimmed through the related mail thread at https://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/message/34908667/ and didn't see a link to the icon file. You may ask the author of that UI design.
Sebastian
On 5 July 2018 at 22:01, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Wow! Those icons are really awesome and look really good! Thanks for sharing.
Do you know if we have access to the icon file that is proposed on this link?
Or us it just a proposal of a new theme?
Awesome work! Really impressive.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:54 PM Sebastian Zartner, < sebastianzartner@...400...> wrote:
Just want to mention that there were previous approaches to redesign the UI and the icons. See e.g. http://artntechasone.com/forInkscapeTeam.html.
Sebastian
On 1 July 2018 at 12:30, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Yes, please keep users involved in these changes. Personally, I don't have any problems with Inkscape icons or the interface -- in general -- although there are certainly some places which could be improved (especially the language used in the dialogs) (i.e. UX).
If we do any survey, please let's put some thought into it, so the results are as useful as possible.
I'm just a humble user, so can't offer any advice about designing or programming.
Welcome to the community, Mare!
(fyi, we also have a lovely woman named Maren who participates on both development and user sides. So we will have to be careful about spelling names :-) . I wouldn't be surprised if she chimes in shortly :-) ).
All best, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Marién Soria Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 2:04 PM To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New developer member
Hi guys! It's Mare from a different email. Mare and Marién is the same person.
Some one can tell me how many people are in the developer team? I trying to find the correct and free tool for share design ideas and get feedback about it.
Do we have a twitter or facebook page?
Maybe it will be nice make a survey to learn about our users. Like a user experience research. What do you think?
El 14:18 Sáb Jun 30, 2018, Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...2179......> escribió:
Hi Everyone,
Just so I can start doing some tests... could you please help me understand a few things about the icons used in the toolbars inside Inkscape 0.92.3?
What is the size I need to build the icons? (or tweak the existing ones?) 32x32 px? I am sorry if this is a silly question.
And should all the icons be in the same file (just like icons.svg that was previously discussed in this thread) or should the icon files be stored in individual files? The format we need to use them is PNG or SVG?
Thanks!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Victor Westmann < victor.westmann@...400...> wrote:
Hi All,
How is everyone doing today? ;-)
Indeed Martin! I just downloaded Tango Icons (form Mihaela's link ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x.FixBug17775 30/share/icons/tango_icons.svg )) and downloaded Symbolic icons from Jabier ( https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons /symbolic_icons.svg) and renamed them to "icons.svg" in %inkscape_dir%\share\icons\icons.svg and it did NOT work.
Do you guys know what needs to be done for the icons to be replaced by either the "tango" or the "symbolic" icons?
As soon as I know how to replace them I will start doing some testing...
Thanks everyone for the assistance so far!
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, <doctormo@...400...> wrote: Dear All!
I believe Alex worked on making all the icons seperate files for the hackfest, those large icon pack svg files might not work in trunk any more. Although I think there's a script to unpack them.
So either way, take care to maintain compatibility with the next version by using (or testing) with the trunk version itself.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sat, 2018-06-30 at 01:33 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Is a mixed work for a lot of people, I think is generated with the suv work that also add some icons.
I dont know. Now Im moving symboloc icons to devel folowing Tav work. Think soon are available.
Regards, Jabier.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 16:14 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
Hi Jabier,
This is a really nice set. Do you know who built it?
Do you know if we have a "catalog" of all the available icons we can use in Inkscape?
So for now we have
default icons tango icons symbolic icons
Am I missing any other one? If we know about all of them in the future this will be able to become an option inside of the application ;-)
Regards,
--Victor Westmann
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...837...285... ke r.es> wrote:
We have done symbolic icons for inkscape. They are pretty cool. You can use in inkscape overwriting the icons.svg file thith the file in this link.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/share/icons/symb ol ic_icons.svg With a svg ¿single? text search&replace you can tweak for dark ui the icons (more suitable to be white UI)
Work for 0.92.x for PreAlpha1 (development) is don't done jet.
Regards.
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 17:22 -0300, Mare Soria wrote: > "I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > more > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign the > icons" > I think is a great idea, something like two icons for each
designer, > for example. But for do that we need encourage the community. > We
need > more interaction with our users. > > About the image you share with me: I'm trying to figure out > what
are > you trying to show me. And that make me think about we need a
good > tool to share designs ideas! > Please, explain me with words you idea. > I'll try to make a list of apps we can use for improve our > design > comunication. > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 17:10, Victor Westmann
(victor.we > stmann@...400...) escribió: > > Hi Mare, > > > > amazing! > > > > I would say that a good starting point for us is to gather > > more > > people that could potentially also want to help us redesign > > the > > icons (maybe announce it somewhere?) and measure the efforts > > of > > this work first. > > I believe that the file that stores all (or at least most) of
the > > icons that are used in the UI are stored in: > > %Inkscape_DIR%\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > Depending on the architecture of the Inkscape you installed > > (32
or > > 64 bit) it should be in one of those two places: > > > > 32 bit >> C:\Program Files\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > 64 bit >> C:\Program Files > > (x86)\inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg > > > > My initial idea is represented here https://ibb.co/gK6OxJ > > > > I have some drawing abilities but I am not a designer. > > > > Let me know what you think and how can I help! > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Mare Soria <mare.soria@...3365...87... > > l.
com> > > wrote: > > > I'm in my friend! > > > Yeap, the new Gimp style is lovely. > > > I had started to change the icons a time ago, but there are
many! > > > I have personally choosen a minimalistic version and for do
that > > > helps me the free icons of Material Design by > > > Google. https:
//ma > > > terial.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline > > > > > > I just start work around the new interface structure. You > > > can > > > contact me at any moment! > > > > > > El vie., 29 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 15:59, Victor Westmann
(victo > > > r.westmann@...400...) escribió: > > > > Hi Mare Soria, > > > > > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same. This project is extremely > > > > useful
and > > > > powerful but the UI makes it look old. I was wondering if
we > > > > could join forces to propose a new design of the icons on
the > > > > project and maybe even create a small new project > > > > instead. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if we could gather graphic > > > > designers, > > > > icon makers and people of the same nature to design a > > > > dark
ui > > > > theme for inkscape on Windows and Mac OS platforms > > > > (because
I > > > > Know this was already done in Linux). And we could > > > > redesign
all > > > > of the icons. Just like Gimp did. The new UI gimp has is
super > > > > pretty, modern, and doesn’t fatigue our eyes (because of
the > > > > dark theme and colors). https://www.gimp.org/release-not > > > > es
/gim > > > > p-2.10.html > > > > > > > > This would also address the new monitor resolutions that > > > > people will use inkscape (4K or really big resolutions). > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Victor Westmann > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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On 30/06/18 03:38, doctormo@...400... wrote:
I'm a web developer too (I work on the inkscape.org website) and have been pushing the inkscape codebase slowly towards being more 'designable' i.e. giving the ability to change the user interface by using Glade XML (aka Gnome UI Builder) and our own xml files for things like menus, keyboard shortcuts etc.
On a related note I've been experimenting with some of the Document Properties dialog panes, moving the UI design out of the code and into XML files. I think this might be worthwhile pursuing because it vastly cuts down UI design time (no rebuild to see changes) and simplifies the code. See this change[1] for example, all the strings and layout information has been moved to an XML file and all that's left to do is connect up the logic. There's a slightly different approach for the same effect just above it.
I'm mentioning this now because the subject has come up, and I now have vastly less spare time to work on it than I did when I started. If anyone out there wants to take this start and run with it, go ahead! If not, I'll just keep chipping away at it.
[1] https://gitlab.com/darktrojan/inkscape/compare/cb85a...fa94e#890d511b00c618e...
GL
Hi Geoff,
Do you have a screenshot of what you've done? I admit to being lazy, but I know there's people here that won't know how to see your designs.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sun, 2018-07-01 at 15:48 +1200, Geoff Lankow wrote:
On 30/06/18 03:38, doctormo@...400... wrote:
I'm a web developer too (I work on the inkscape.org website) and have been pushing the inkscape codebase slowly towards being more 'designable' i.e. giving the ability to change the user interface by using Glade XML (aka Gnome UI Builder) and our own xml files for things like menus, keyboard shortcuts etc.
On a related note I've been experimenting with some of the Document Properties dialog panes, moving the UI design out of the code and into XML files. I think this might be worthwhile pursuing because it vastly cuts down UI design time (no rebuild to see changes) and simplifies the code. See this change[1] for example, all the strings and layout information has been moved to an XML file and all that's left to do is connect up the logic. There's a slightly different approach for the same effect just above it.
I'm mentioning this now because the subject has come up, and I now have vastly less spare time to work on it than I did when I started. If anyone out there wants to take this start and run with it, go ahead! If not, I'll just keep chipping away at it.
[1] https://gitlab.com/darktrojan/inkscape/compare/cb85a...fa94e#890d511b 00c618ed25a67397844c623af5c3af0c_381_361
GL
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I'm doing this from an ease-of-coding angle, not to improve the design, so mine only looks very slightly different from the standard UI.
GL
On 1/07/18 16:34, doctormo@...400... wrote:
Hi Geoff,
Do you have a screenshot of what you've done? I admit to being lazy, but I know there's people here that won't know how to see your designs.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Sun, 2018-07-01 at 15:48 +1200, Geoff Lankow wrote:
On 30/06/18 03:38, doctormo@...400... wrote:
I'm a web developer too (I work on the inkscape.org website) and have been pushing the inkscape codebase slowly towards being more 'designable' i.e. giving the ability to change the user interface by using Glade XML (aka Gnome UI Builder) and our own xml files for things like menus, keyboard shortcuts etc.
On a related note I've been experimenting with some of the Document Properties dialog panes, moving the UI design out of the code and into XML files. I think this might be worthwhile pursuing because it vastly cuts down UI design time (no rebuild to see changes) and simplifies the code. See this change[1] for example, all the strings and layout information has been moved to an XML file and all that's left to do is connect up the logic. There's a slightly different approach for the same effect just above it.
I'm mentioning this now because the subject has come up, and I now have vastly less spare time to work on it than I did when I started. If anyone out there wants to take this start and run with it, go ahead! If not, I'll just keep chipping away at it.
[1] https://gitlab.com/darktrojan/inkscape/compare/cb85a...fa94e#890d511b 00c618ed25a67397844c623af5c3af0c_381_361
GL
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